Ron DeSantis Master Thread

[Moshe Green]

You fail to acknowledge the "poison pill" about him.

correct. someone who revives a party cannot be called a "suicide poison pill". i would more compare it to chemo therapy after a patient already recovered from an illness. good while it was needed, although admittedly deadly after the fact.

[CountValentine]

correct. someone who revives a party cannot be called a "suicide poison pill". i would more compare it to chemo therapy after a patient already recovered from an illness. good while it was needed, although admittedly deadly after the fact.

He has never had the backing (majority) of the voters. That was true in 2016, 2018, 2020 and now in 2022.
Now you can praise his actions and or policies but that doesn't change the nations view of him, poison!

[dm123]

He has never had the backing (majority) of the voters. That was true in 2016, 2018, 2020 and now in 2022.
Now you can praise his actions and or policies but that doesn't change the nations view of him, poison!

Who is the nation? In 2016 he had the backing of the majority of states.

[CountValentine]

In 2016 he had the backing of the majority of states.

That is why I said he won the election, full stop!

Who is the nation?

This context of this discussion is the number of votes he received. The nation would be all those who voted.

[YitzyS]

Is there a mistake in this thread title? It should probably say "Master Ron DeSantis Thread" 

[CountValentine]

Is there a mistake in this thread title? It should probably say "Master Ron DeSantis Thread" 

Do you mean "Master #DeathSantis Tread"? 

DeSantis donor found dead in parking lot after sexual misconduct investigation launched
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/desantis-donor-found-dead-in-parking-lot-after-sexual-misconduct-investigation-launched/ar-AA15c0SG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=3bb8247d59094df69090cc00da9b8e04

[Moshe123]

New Suffolk/USA Today poll on 2024:

GOP Primary
DeSantis 56
Trump 33

General Election
Biden 47 – Trump 40
DeSantis 47 – Biden 43

https://twitter.com/TomBevanRCP/status/1602625679870537728

The numbers under the hood are even worse for Trump.

While 31% want the former president to run, 61% prefer some other Republican nominee who would continue the policies Trump has pursued

Republican voters want him out of the way.

[CountValentine]

Republican voters want him out of the way.

...but his policies!!! 

[CountValentine]

How fast can you go off the deep end? He has seen that ED doesn't work so he is going the VD route.

Ron DeSantis Lashes Out at ‘Authoritarians’ After Demanding Vaccine Probe
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ron-desantis-lashes-out-at-authoritarians-after-demanding-vaccine-probe/ar-AA15fK0Q?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=856b1af1dff54008f9b442320e0833ae

[jj1000]

How fast can you go off the deep end? He has seen that ED doesn't work so he is going the VD route.

Ron DeSantis Lashes Out at ‘Authoritarians’ After Demanding Vaccine Probe
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ron-desantis-lashes-out-at-authoritarians-after-demanding-vaccine-probe/ar-AA15fK0Q?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=856b1af1dff54008f9b442320e0833ae

There is a ton of conjecture in that article.

Seems the point at issue is vaccines for children. And he has a ton of MD's behind him on not vaccinating or boosting all kids as he seems to call into question.

I think it'd be great if we had 51 CDC institutes in this country. Not sure if all states can afford that, but seems to me it'd be a net benefit.

[CountValentine]

“The authoritarians were the ones that wanted to mandate the [vaccine] on people. I protected people from having that happen and made sure Floridians could make their own choice,” he claimed. “At the end of the day, what we’re looking for is to provide truth, to provide accurate data and to provide accurate analysis.”

The simple truth is vaccines did and continue to work. His policies caused people to die and that is why he is called #DeathSantis!!!

[JMHO]

We have officially found @CountValentine 's new obsession.... DeSantis!!

[aygart]

I think this is worth a mention here.

https://fortune.com/well/2022/12/13/covid-unvaccinated-greater-risk-car-crash-traffic-accident-new-study-says-canada-government-records-pfizer-moderna/

[Alexsei]

There is a ton of conjecture in that article.

Seems the point at issue is vaccines for children. And he has a ton of MD's behind him on not vaccinating or boosting all kids as he seems to call into question.

I think it'd be great if we had 51 CDC institutes in this country. Not sure if all states can afford that, but seems to me it'd be a net benefit.

The consensus now seems to have disease control even more centralized than Federal the WHO believes that it is not centralized enough even now, so splitting it up in 51 CDCs would definitely cause many millions of people to die.

As CV says the vaccine continues to work
We need to find ways to have more people take it not less, by giving control to individual states we give an opening to unacceptable anti science opinions to become mainstream. very dangerous path forward

[CountValentine]

We have officially found @CountValentine 's new obsession.... DeSantis!!

No need to find your obsession as we all see it.

[Alexsei]

I think this is worth a mention here.

This is a very concerning study, the original paper is here https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36470796/

Hard data. Unfortunately.

My question is if we force these people to get vaccinated will it decrease the risk? Is the vaccine that  effective in changing psychological behavior?

[CountValentine]

...by giving control to individual states we give an opening to unacceptable anti science opinions to become mainstream. very dangerous path forward

Exhibit A: Dr. Joseph Ladapo

[yuneeq]

[aygart]

This is a very concerning study, the original paper is here https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36470796/

Hard data. Unfortunately.

My question is if we force these people to get vaccinated will it decrease the risk? Is the vaccine that  effective in changing psychological behavior?

These are also hard data.

http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

The real connection between them is speculative. There is a very good chance that those who did not take vaccines were driving much more than those who did not during the Canadian lockdowns and that is a potential alternate explanation among who knows how many others.

[avromie7]

These are also hard data.

http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

The real connection between them is speculative. There is a very good chance that those who did not take vaccines were driving much more than those who did not during the Canadian lockdowns and that is a potential alternate explanation among who knows how many others.

They were also forced to drive when unvaccinated were banned from flying or taking a train.