Moderna Vs Pfizer Protection Against Delta Variant

[Lurker]

Worst case I’ll just take a 4th shot, it’s less dangerous than having dinner

Your eating habits concern me. Just sayin.

[AsherO]

Worst case I’ll just take a 4th shot, it’s less dangerous than having dinner

If you invite me out for dinner I'm not accepting the invitation

[Traveler718]

Interesting discussion of whether Moderna is truly better against Delta than Pfizer, or was just given later and to less vulnerable groups (incorporates a number of points that have already been touched on here):

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/08/12/does-this-explain-why-moderna-is-performing-better-against-delta-than-pfizer-is-n408430

[Dan]

Interesting discussion of whether Moderna is truly better against Delta than Pfizer, or was just given later and to less vulnerable groups (incorporates a number of points that have already been touched on here):

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/08/12/does-this-explain-why-moderna-is-performing-better-against-delta-than-pfizer-is-n408430

Not a biased source at all...but yes, good discussion.

[Yoel1]

Worst case I’ll just take a 4th shot, it’s less dangerous than having dinner

By dinner you mean spare ribs and french fries?

[PlatinumGuy]

By dinner you mean spare ribs and french fries?

Yes, food poisoning is more common and more likely than anything in the vaccine which is manufactured in a sterile environment, has a well understood mechanism, and exits the body faster. And I’m a clean eater who hasn’t taken any medicine or even Tylenol/Advil in 6+ months.

[ExGingi]

Yes, food poisoning is more common and more likely than anything in the vaccine which is manufactured in a sterile environment, has a well understood mechanism, and exits the body faster. And I’m a clean eater who hasn’t taken any medicine or even Tylenol/Advil in 6+ months.

When I saw 6+ I thought you might be serious, until I saw the next word was months rather than years.

[HoKo]

Interesting discussion of whether Moderna is truly better against Delta than Pfizer, or was just given later and to less vulnerable groups (incorporates a number of points that have already been touched on here):

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/08/12/does-this-explain-why-moderna-is-performing-better-against-delta-than-pfizer-is-n408430

Thanks for sharing. Nice summary/round-up of where things currently stand.

Has anyone seen good guidance/studies/etc. regarding the idea of mixing-and-matching two different vaccines (i.e. you got two doses of Pfizer therefore do Moderna for booster...or if you got two doses of Moderna then do Pfizer as the booster)?

[S209]

Interesting discussion of whether Moderna is truly better against Delta than Pfizer, or was just given later and to less vulnerable groups (incorporates a number of points that have already been touched on here):

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/08/12/does-this-explain-why-moderna-is-performing-better-against-delta-than-pfizer-is-n408430

Fascinating.. also helps with PGs question about the UK:

And maybe the UK finding explains why that country has done so much better with its summer Delta wave than we have. Remember that the UK followed a “first doses first” strategy that ignored the recommended three-week interval for Pfizer doses. The British government believed they’d slow the spread of the virus more efficiently by generating partial immunity in a large share of the population than by generating full immunity in a smaller share. The available vaccine supply was used to give everyone a first dose and only once that was done, months later, did second doses start going out. That had two benefits. By delaying the second dose, the Brits got closer to the immunity interval “sweet spot” than we did. And by giving out many of their second doses later in the year than we in the U.S. did, they fortuitously boosted the immunity of a huge share of their population right before Delta arrived.

[S209]

Thanks for sharing. Nice summary/round-up of where things currently stand.

Has anyone seen good guidance/studies/etc. regarding the idea of mixing-and-matching two different vaccines (i.e. you got two doses of Pfizer therefore do Moderna for booster...or if you got two doses of Moderna then do Pfizer as the booster)?

PlatinumGuy is going to TARB

[Yehuda57]

Yes, food poisoning is more common and more likely than anything in the vaccine which is manufactured in a sterile environment, has a well understood mechanism, and exits the body faster. And I’m a clean eater who hasn’t taken any medicine or even Tylenol/Advil in 6+ months.

More common than what? Fever? Flu-like symptoms? Pain in the arm? Hearing loss? (and for females, changed menstrual cycles that are heavier and more painful)

This kind of talk is not helpful to anyone. Food poisoning happens to people once or twice in a lifetime. We all either experienced the side effects or know people who experienced severe side effects from the vaccine. Without looking at the stats, it's a no brainer to know that if the vaccine and a plate of dinner is in front of you right now, the vaccine is more likely to make you sick, even if you are correct that there are more cases of food poisoning overall.

And the side effects continue after the vaccine leaves your body, or has nothing to do with being in your body or not, or how sterile the ingredients are prepared. But you know this.

Everyone should get vaccinated, and pro vaccine folks shouldn't dole out talk that mocks or denigrates people's legitimate concerns.

PlatinumGuy is going to TARB

Super scientific

[PlatinumGuy]

PlatinumGuy is going to TARB

What does that standard for?

[Euclid]

What does that standard for?

Test/try and report back

[CountValentine]

Test/try and report back

There is another meaning and IIRC more common. 

[AsherO]

There is another meaning and IIRC more common. 

That’s All Right Bro?

/s

[TimT]

That’s All Right Bro?

/s

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tarb

[PlatinumGuy]

https://twitter.com/barakraveh/status/1426858407592595466

[yelped]

So it seems time elapsed from infection/vaccination is what counts. The closer you are to that point, the more likely you are to be able to overcome the entering virus right away, while the further away you are from that point, you will need a couple of days to fight back and recover.

[PlatinumGuy]

Food poisoning happens to people once or twice in a lifetime.

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1428099417274454021

A severe outcome is much more likely to occur from a meal than from a Covid vaccine

[PlatinumGuy]

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1428332156439470081