Jewish Music With Non-Jewish Origins Master Thread

[YitzyS]

Are the tunes in "The Purim Story" taken from non Jewish sources?
"Esther my child" sounds like it.

This is from the album jacket of Off The Record 2

[zalman2bis]

This is from the album jacket of Off The Record 2

Thanks, and what does that indicate?

[YitzyS]

Thanks, and what does that indicate?

I don't know about "Esther My Child", but I know that another song on the album, "We Can Do Teshuva", was composed by Eileen Atlas and Steve Yates.

I don't know Steve Yates, but Eileen Atlas is the wife of R' Shlomo Atlas of Chicago. Both husband and wife play in a band at many simchos in Chicago. (Yes, only in Chicago is a woman part of the band at frum weddings, playing from the women's side of the mechitza!)

[YitzyS]

IIRC, on Yossi Kirsh's other album, Shimshon, they use the song Legacy from Rocky Zweig: https://mostlymusic.com/products/legacy-cd?srsltid=AfmBOopvoC9VISljVHStreM_Fo903Y-K4YP4YiN_rHETj8iNeKGX2nM5

[gogreen]

Thanks, and what does that indicate?

That it's an original song with original lyrics.
See here:
https://mishpacha.com/story-for-the-ages/

[zalman2bis]

Thanks!
So it seems it's all Jewish.  Nice!
And great article!

[mevinyavin]

I don't know Steve Yates

our studio engineer, a fellow named Steve Yates.

[YitzyS]

But also, and in regard to the OP's question:

Steve Yates, the non-Jewish engineer

[yfr bachur]

Ì happen to HATE the lyrics.
"When all hope seems lost- we turn to hashem"
Sounds like we dont turn to hashem until all natural hope is lost...

[yitzgar]

Ì happen to HATE the lyrics.
"When all hope seems lost- we turn to hashem"
Sounds like we dont turn to hashem until all natural hope is lost...

I always thought it was "just like in previous days when all hope seemed lost we turned to Hashem"

[yfr bachur]

I always thought it was "just like in previous days when all hope seemed lost we turned to Hashem"

Doesn't change my issue.just moves it from presentbtense to past

[Euclid]

Doesn't change my issue.just moves it from presentbtense to past

Even when on your neck is a blade

*Even* when all hope was lost we turned to Hashem

אפילו חרב חדה

[yitzgar]

Doesn't change my issue.just moves it from presentbtense to past

It makes a big difference. If it's present tense, it sounds like that is the correct mehalech. If it's past tense, it is an historical observation, doesn't mean that it was correct.

[yawn]

At 1:30 of the track, right before the music, the following conversation occurs. "(Nuti) Shaul, why are you crying?, (Shaul) Hey Nuti, all hope is lost." The song is a response to that.
"I don't know Shaul, don't jump to conclusions, you can't determine our fate,
History shows us, he is forgiving......... When all hope seemed lost........"