Bought on sale and got back more

[Cbs]

did it ever happen, that you bought something on sale / coupons etc. and when you returned the item u got back the price that its at in the store on that day?
in my case i bought a shirt in macys a bit ago for $9.99 after a few discounts etc.. and when i came to return it without the receipt, they scanned the barcode and said i get back $19.99 !

[JEWDA]

I never tried w/o receipt I never knew they would do that.

[Cbs]

I never tried w/o receipt I never knew they would do that.

many stores will give you store credit if you dont have a receipt, as i got macys credit

[Cholentfresser]

If you do a return without a receipt, most stores will give you the lowest price it ever sold at. Either cash, or store credit. however, I know that childrens place will give you back @ the current price.

[ShmuliT]

Im pretty sure Bed Bath and Beyond will give store credit of current price without a receipt.

[Name Changed]

I once bought a hard drive in staples using the $25 off coupon. I returned the hard drive and they gave me the full credit  - Including the $25!

[Cbs]

I once bought a hard drive in staples using the $25 off coupon. I returned the hard drive and they gave me the full credit  - Including the $25!

for some reason i think that if u use a coupon in many stores and return the item w/o a receipt, the computer wont process that the coupon was in.
like in Macys the 19.99 was the sale price before the discounts i used

[ez1985]

I have a lot of experience in this.  Bed Bath and Beyond officially will give you store credit for the full price, even if you used a coupon (not on a clearance item).  If you push enough you can get them to give you money back.  I just bought a pair of shoes on Nordstrom.com with a price match for 224.  I returned them without the receipt and got back 320. Generally stores like Gap, Banana, Old Navy, Childrens place will give you a credit for the current selling price.   
Whats the story Halachically?  Is this stealing?

[Cbs]

Whats the story Halachically?  Is this stealing?

i have the same question. i would think if u deliberately go, buy and return and u know they gonna give u more, than its straight up stealing but if it happens that you dont have the receipt and thats what the computer shows then it should be fine - similar to a price mistake online.

[ez1985]

What about purposely returning without the receipt when you have it?  Or is that what you meant?  If you really don't have the receipt then its totally Ta'os Akum.  You can tell them about it but you don't really have to.  Would it still be considered Ta'os Akum if you do it purposely?  They are still making a mistake, even though you led them to do it.  Sorry for rambling.


A little off topic but there are so many cases similar to this.  What if you order something online and it doesn't come.  Call them up and they will either reship it or credit you.  Then you get the original package.  Do you need to notify them?

[Cbs]

What about purposely returning without the receipt when you have it?  Or is that what you meant?  If you really don't have the receipt then its totally Ta'os Akum.  You can tell them about it but you don't really have to.  Would it still be considered Ta'os Akum if you do it purposely?  They are still making a mistake, even though you led them to do it.  Sorry for rambling.


A little off topic but there are so many cases similar to this.  What if you order something online and it doesn't come.  Call them up and they will either reship it or credit you.  Then you get the original package.  Do you need to notify them?

i see what your question is regarding the reciepts and that i dont have an answer for - and its a valid question since you are not required to return with the receipt.

regarding notifying them or returning a double, i dont either know, but it has happened to me before, with a warranty company. i claimed the warranty on my ipod 80GB a few yrs ago since the battary was messed up and i sent it in 3 times back and forth and they couldnt fix so i told them it was around $200 - and they said theyll send me a check of $200.
later i got the receipt from sams club database and it was $230 so i PUTPAC again and they said theyll send a second check of $30.
in the end i got 3 checks! $200, $30, and $200. (and returned the ipod to the warranty place)

[ez1985]

Yeah I think i'm too scared to ask and hear the right answer.

Its happened to me many times.  I ordered shirts from Charles Tyrwitt and they say is should come within 14 business days.  If it doesn't they will credit you because they have no way of tracking it.  Then I got the shirts a week later. 

[Name Changed]

Isnt T'aus A'kum Mutur?

[ez1985]

yes thats what I'm saying.  The question is, is it Taus Akum if you lead them to make the mistake i.e don't give the receipt on purpose?

[AsherO]

Isnt T'aus A'kum Mutur?

But what does T'aus A'kum mean? As in, are these cases even considered T'aus A'kum?

[Cbs]

But what does T'aus A'kum mean? As in, are these cases even considered T'aus A'kum?

eh, i was expecting some sort of qoute from rambam or shu"a (admu"haz) on this matter from, you!

[Name Changed]

eh, i was expecting some sort of qoute from rambam or shu"a (admu"haz) on this matter from, you!

Dont think the rambam has anything on T'aus Computer System 

[ganizzy]

i bought 3 pair of clarks shoes from shoes.com at 20% off (at $100 - $120 a pair - it adds up)
it seems they drop shipped it directly from clarks.
i didnt want 2 pairs, so i returned it directly to a clarks b &m
apparently the reciept i gave them didnt work so they gave me the full price (before sale as well) i mentioned then that i had used a coupon and they told me, well theres nothing we can do - we cant look it up
so i got the money back for 2 pair that was the same amount as 3 pair (a $100 pair of shoes for free)

i think its wrong to return to a store, davka to get more money back bec they cant trace it.

[Cbs]

Dont think the rambam has anything on T'aus Computer System 

we were discussing what taus akum is though

[AsherO]

Dont think the rambam has anything on T'aus Computer System 

+1

Reminds me of the following quote:

The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine.

we were discussing what taus akum is though

They didn't have this kind of commerce (and thus this kind of "T'aus") in the Rambam's times.