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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2025, 07:53:34 AM »
I davka logged in to do it, hoping it would lend it more of a tokef.
Wasn't trying to dox you... but your page is hilarious!

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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2025, 08:01:54 AM »
Wasn't trying to dox you... but your page is hilarious!
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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2025, 04:37:46 PM »
Wow, this is incredible.

So, I read the Wikipedia entry on Civilian Casualty Ratio, which is supposed to be a neutral topic about civilian casualties in conflicts post-WWII, right? Well, think again. I noticed that the Arab-Israeli conflict is the ONLY conflict in the world for which there are detailed tables breaking down the numbers, delving into the nitty gritty specifics of each conflict.

This is the 3rd paragraph in the article:
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In World War II at civilians constituted 60–67% of casualties,[5] but some sources give a higher estimate. In the Vietnam War, the civilian ratio is estimated at 46[6]–67%.[7] Two studies found civilian ratio was 40% in the Bosnian war.[4] During the Second Intifada, civilians constituted ~70% of Israelis killed by Palestinians and ~60% of Palestinians killed by Israelis.[8] Civilians constituted ~75% and ~65% of all Palestinians killed in the 2008 war and 2014 war, respectively. In the 2023–2025 war, civilians have constituted 68% of those killed by Hamas attacks,[9] and ~80% of those killed by the Israeli invasion.[10][11][12]

Notice anything odd? Out of all the wars globally, these wars deserved a shoutout: World War II, Vietnam War, Bosnian war, Second Intifada, 2008, 2014 and current Israeli-Palestinian wars; and only the Israeli-Palestinian wars get a breakdown for each side. The other conflicts are only briefly addressed.

At first, what stood out to me was that, for the Arab-Israeli conflict, each flare-up has its own table—while NO OTHER conflict has any table comparisons at all. Not one. Furthermore, there is a highly detailed, in-depth dissection of the data and numbers for each Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which made me wonder how much attention is given to each conflict in general.

I searched the Wikipedia page for keywords. Here are the results:

KeywordResultsResults Including References/Notes
Korea89
Vietnam89
U.S.24
America34
Afghanistan44
Iraq411
ISIS12
Russia46
Ukraine11
Israel5177
Palestine/Palestinian2840
Gaza1855
Syria23
Lebanon47

These numbers reminded me of the UN.

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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2025, 09:53:28 AM »
It’s happening on Hebrew Wikipedia too:
https://x.com/nehemia_ga/status/1882336930999959728?s=46
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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2025, 05:25:27 AM »
Fixed. You're welcome.
Page seems plagued by vandals. Odd that someone else didn't catch that mistake before I fixed it.
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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2025, 08:16:43 AM »
Don't go to Wikipedia for political stuff. Is there a better option then the way it's ran now?
Overall it's still a good website imo

I find myself using AI a lot more often, it’s a lot better for most uses.
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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2025, 05:35:01 PM »
Yep. Wikipedia was one of the first "big" media/info sources to realize that they could shift the narrative by laying down a foundation of false info. It's really quite smart when you think about it: to most people, "Wikipedia" means "Online Encyclopedia"-just the facts and nothing but the facts. To the radical leftists who run the site, this is a golden opportunity to twist and spin the information so that the average Googler winds up digesting all events through their leftist narrative, and as others pointed out above, they silence anyone who tries to correct them (try editing any of the common leftist lies-"Israeli killing of Palestinian children", "Radical Anti-LGBTQ resume", "History of racist and discriminatory statements", etc.-that are in almost every politically-related Wikipedia topic and you'll see what I mean).
The co-founder of Wikipedia himself, Larry Sanger, said in 2021 that "Nobody should trust Wikipedia anymore, it's become a political site with an agenda" (paraphrased). And unfortunately, it's pretty much true for all the big tech companies. Put Ben Shapiro, or Elon Musk, or Bibi Netanyahu, and of course, Donald Trump (just pick anyone the left doesn't like), into Google and see what search results you'll get (will be some combination of Wikipedia, CNN, Media Matters, NPR News, NBC, The Independent, BBC, leftist YT channels, sometimes even Al Jazeera).

P.S. Try it now--a current search for Elon Musk triggers dozens of articles calling him a Nazi sympathizer. A subsequent search for Ben Shapiro literally yields a result on the first page "Ben Shapiro struggles to defend Elon Musk from Nazi criticism".
It's getting obvious...
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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2025, 04:44:33 PM »
A recent X account dedicated to calling out Wikipedia biased editing, especially undermining Israel, e.g. this example:
https://x.com/wikibias2024/status/1886460032708903107?s=46
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