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avromie7 · « **Reply #260 on:** November 03, 2021, 09:36:21 AM »

It's looking increasingly likely that the vaad endorsement actually affected the outcome of the election. While many like to point out that the vaad only controls a few thousand vote, they actually sway the election by 2x the number of votes they control.

If the vaad controls 3k voters, plus because of the controversy another 4k voters stayed home, that swings the tally by 10k votes.

simple26 · « **Reply #261 on:** November 03, 2021, 09:41:52 AM »

What’s the threshold for a runoff in NJ?

efflpetzel · « **Reply #262 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:04:41 AM »

Quote from: avromie7 on November 03, 2021, 09:36:21 AM

It's looking increasingly likely that the vaad endorsement actually affected the outcome of the election. While many like to point out that the vaad only controls a few thousand vote, they actually sway the election by 2x the number of votes they control.

If the vaad controls 3k voters, plus because of the controversy another 4k voters stayed home, that swings the tally by 10k votes.

Partially true,

The 33% Lakewood turnout is inexcusable though

cholent · « **Reply #263 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:05:22 AM »

Quote from: efflpetzel on November 03, 2021, 10:04:41 AM

Partially true,

The 33% Lakewood turnout is inexcusable though

Speaking for myself: when I saw the hours long wait at my polling station, I left. I don't have that much free time in my day.

efflpetzel · « **Reply #264 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:06:15 AM »

Quote from: cholent on November 03, 2021, 10:05:22 AM

Speaking for myself: when I saw the hours long wait at my polling station, I left. I don't have that much free time in my day.

Mail in vote doesn't take up any time of your day

cholent · « **Reply #265 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:07:10 AM »

Quote from: efflpetzel on November 03, 2021, 10:06:15 AM

Mail in vote doesn't take up any time of your day

True, and I will probably do that in the future. In the past I've never had to wait more than a few minutes to vote, so I didn't bother with a mail in ballot.

efflpetzel · « **Reply #266 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:09:35 AM »

Quote from: cholent on November 03, 2021, 10:07:10 AM

True, and I will probably do that in the future. In the past I've never had to wait more than a few minutes to vote, so I didn't bother with a mail in ballot.

It's strange, when I voted in Somerset, the guy said that it's been busy all day, I was shocked when I saw the Lakewood turnout was only 33%

CountValentine · « **Reply #267 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:17:30 AM »

Why is it that those with the smallest voting block always like to claim they changed the outcome of the election?

aygart · « **Reply #268 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:18:55 AM »

Quote from: efflpetzel on November 03, 2021, 10:04:41 AM

Partially true,

The 33% Lakewood turnout is inexcusable though

This is partially an effect of the voter registration drives. There can easily be a few thousand dead registrations at BMG. Only half of the mail in ballots that came to my house were actually eligible.

Fish Tank · « **Reply #269 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:24:23 AM »

Quote from: aygart on November 03, 2021, 10:18:55 AM

This is partially an effect of the voter registration drives. There can easily be a few thousand dead registrations at BMG. Only half of the mail in ballots that came to my house were actually eligible.

In the 2020 presidential election, 37,000 voted in Lakewood.
Yesterday, 18,000 voted in Lakewood.

Fish Tank · « **Reply #270 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:25:09 AM »

Quote from: cholent on November 03, 2021, 10:05:22 AM

Speaking for myself: when I saw the hours long wait at my polling station, I left. I don't have that much free time in my day.

Why didn't you go to early voting? I was in and out in 5 minutes.

Fish Tank · « **Reply #271 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:26:32 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on November 03, 2021, 10:17:30 AM

Why is it that those with the smallest voting block always like to claim they changed the outcome of the election?

What block are you referring to?
This election in very close. Every vote counts. Literarily.

yuneeq · « **Reply #272 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:27:33 AM »

Quote from: cholent on November 03, 2021, 10:05:22 AM

Speaking for myself: when I saw the hours long wait at my polling station, I left. I don't have that much free time in my day.

No more impactful, actual voter suppression than long lines. The fact that 33% turnout (lower if you remove early voting/mail in) resulted in huge lines is completely unacceptable. That the hours weren’t extended by the NJ courts is unforgivable.

aygart · « **Reply #273 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:27:59 AM »

Quote from: Fish Tank on November 03, 2021, 10:24:23 AM

In the 2020 presidential election, 37,000 voted in Lakewood.
Yesterday, 18,000 voted in Lakewood.

Makes sense.

CountValentine · « **Reply #274 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:30:03 AM »

Quote from: Fish Tank on November 03, 2021, 10:26:32 AM

What block are you referring to?

This is just an example. It happens every election some group is claiming it affected the outcome of the election.

Quote from: avromie7 on November 03, 2021, 09:36:21 AM

It's looking increasingly likely that the vaad endorsement actually affected the outcome of the election.

yuneeq · « **Reply #275 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:39:29 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on November 03, 2021, 10:30:03 AM

This is just an example. It happens every election some group is claiming it affected the outcome of the election.

It’s due to both of campaigns spending a lot of money and effort to win over Lakewood voters because they are the most likely to switch sides in an election. And when it’s this tight of a race, literally every vote counts.

jj1000 · « **Reply #276 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:43:44 AM »

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1455903514748760075

Dan · « **Reply #277 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:44:37 AM »

Quote from: cholent on November 03, 2021, 10:05:22 AM

Speaking for myself: when I saw the hours long wait at my polling station, I left. I don't have that much free time in my day.

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21675

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #278 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:50:01 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on November 03, 2021, 10:30:03 AM

This is just an example. It happens every election some group is claiming it affected the outcome of the election.

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1455908762242461700

One of the most trusted names in the biz is saying it, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss.

Dan · « **Reply #279 on:** November 03, 2021, 10:51:54 AM »

Why did they endorse Murphy?