NJ State Politics Master Thread

[Fish Tank]

Speaking for myself: when I saw the hours long wait at my polling station, I left. I don't have that much free time in my day.

No one has time to vote. But the sacrifice is well worth the long term benefit.

[dasmo801]

Why did they endorse Murphy?

Putting aside all the chatter, hock and cynicism - because they have a good working relationship with him.

[CountValentine]

One of the most trusted names in the biz is saying it, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss.

So your signature is accurate?

[Yehuda57]

Why did they endorse Murphy?

I have no idea, but here's the polished version: https://www.newsweek.com/why-i-staunch-republican-am-voting-phil-murphy-governor-opinion-1644430

[aygart]

Is there any aspects in which the frum community did not lose in this election ?

[dasmo801]

Is there any aspects in which the frum community did not lose in this election ?

The Vaad can claim credit for saving an unpopular Murphy. that should be worth something.

[Fish Tank]

So your signature is accurate?

You're saying Dave Wassermnan is being sarcastic? Or you're just trolling because you were called out?

[YitzyS]

Why did they endorse Murphy?

"Because Murphy is winning anyways so it's worth staying on his good side"

[zh cohen]

"Because Murphy is winning anyways so it's worth staying on his good side"

Given the way that polling influences races, it's a good thing that they learn the lessons of their failures, and have become more accurate...

/Sarc

[CountValentine]

You're saying Dave Wassermnan is being sarcastic? Or you're just trolling because you were called out?

Have no idea who Dave Wassermnan is. Called out for what? Stating the facts?

[YitzyS]

Have no idea who Dave Wassermnan is. Called out for what? Stating the facts?

Dave Wasserman runs Cooks Political Report. His projections are generally accurate, as he really knows the numbers and the math.

[YitzyS]

Can we all agree that if Jack Ciatterelli's name was "Jack Smith" then he would've been celebrating his victory now?

[Kobe Bryant]

It's looking increasingly likely that the vaad endorsement actually affected the outcome of the election. While many like to point out that the vaad only controls a few thousand vote, they actually sway the election by 2x the number of votes they control.

If the vaad controls 3k voters, plus because of the controversy another 4k voters stayed home, that swings the tally by 10k votes.

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/2023894/stunner-lakewood-vaad-may-have-handed-governor-murphy-his-second-term.html

[CountValentine]

Dave Wasserman runs Cooks Political Report. His projections are generally accurate, as he really knows the numbers and the math.

...and that has what to do with what I said. Minorities always like to claim they are the ones that changed the outcome of an election. Small voting blocks have the least effect on the outcome.

[drosenberg88429]

What sounds like really tipped this election was insufficient polling site capacity, not any endorsements. The turnout was literally 50% in Lakewood compared to last year, and this was seen as a serious election. A conspiracy theorist might say that the results came down to effective planning on how to subdue the vote that was predicted to be against the powers that be.

[drosenberg88429]

...and that has what to do with what I said. Minorities always like to claim they are the ones that changed the outcome of an election. Small voting blocks have the least effect on the outcome.

The presidential elections also come down to about a dozen states. Whether we like it or not, swing voters hold disproportionate power, and there will be intensive efforts to woo them.

[Yehuda57]

...and that has what to do with what I said. Minorities always like to claim they are the ones that changed the outcome of an election. Small voting blocks have the least effect on the outcome.

He is not part of the minority and he's showing you the data to back up the claim. You can argue about what minorities usually or don't usually say for hours on end, the numbers don't lie. (BTW, he predicted the Virginia outcome back in May and was ridiculed for it.)

[Fish Tank]

Have no idea who Dave Wassermnan is. Called out for what? Stating the facts?

Got it. So your post stems from a lack of knowledge.

I think you should educate yourself before posting "facts".

[CountValentine]

The presidential elections also come down to about a dozen states. Whether we like it or not, swing voters hold disproportionate power, and there will be intensive efforts to woo them.

CA holds more power than any swing state. The same people that are saying every vote counts will say CA doesn't matter because it always goes one way.

I heard this my whole life for almost every election in our state/city. This minority voting block or that minority block put so in so in office. The fact of the matter is without large majority voting blocks the minority voting blocks are meaningless.

This is exactly what is going on here.

[Fish Tank]

...and that has what to do with what I said. Minorities always like to claim they are the ones that changed the outcome of an election. Small voting blocks have the least effect on the outcome.

In this case, a small block - who receives guidance from the vaad - swayed the election. Both candidates spent a full day in Lakewood because it's a "swing block". Vaad guidance vs. public interest. (Using generic words to explain the concept)