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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #320 on: November 03, 2021, 01:42:30 PM »
They don't always make an endorsement. IINM, they didn't give an endorsement in 2016, but they backed Trump in 2020, because of his support of Israel and his pardoning of Rubashkin.
I have no issue with who they support or why. Were they given credit for the big turnout for Trump?
Did their endorsement work then? If so why didn't it work now?
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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #321 on: November 03, 2021, 01:53:10 PM »
If there are any mods on this thread, can you change the thread title to "NJ Governor's Race 2021"? It no longer has anything to do with the debate...

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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #322 on: November 03, 2021, 02:01:40 PM »
If there are any mods on this thread, can you change the thread title to "NJ Governor's Race 2021"? It no longer has anything to do with the debate...
Its morphed into a new debate.

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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #323 on: November 03, 2021, 02:04:36 PM »
Its morphed into a new debate.
Then we should rename Just Shmooze "Just Debate"

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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #324 on: November 03, 2021, 02:06:33 PM »
Then we should rename Just Shmooze "Just Debate"
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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #325 on: November 03, 2021, 02:17:01 PM »
Who did Vaad endorse in the presidential race if anyone?
They don't always make an endorsement. IINM, they didn't give an endorsement in 2016, but they backed Trump in 2020, because of his support of Israel and his pardoning of Rubashkin.
They typically do not make an endorsement for president
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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #326 on: November 03, 2021, 02:38:51 PM »
Or to put it this way: What Wasserman was showing was that the Vaad *flipped* votes that were going to go R to D. Now YitzyS is saying then when all is said and done, those flipped votes will be fewer than the margin of victory, which time will tell, but your argument doesn't account for flipped votes, only the number of votes.
Thank you for explaining on a 4th grade level. I explained earlier on an 8th grade level, but it was too much I guess. Swing states is not a new concept. It's taught in 3rd grade I think.

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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #327 on: November 03, 2021, 05:22:24 PM »
If I recall that didn't happen in 2016.  :)
That definitely contributed to Hillary losing
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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #328 on: November 03, 2021, 05:27:04 PM »
That definitely contributed to Hillary losing
Was just pointing out the facts.
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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #329 on: November 03, 2021, 06:34:48 PM »
AP calls it for Murphy

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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #330 on: November 03, 2021, 09:03:00 PM »
The fact that 33% turnout (lower if you remove early voting/mail in) resulted in huge lines is completely unacceptable. That the hours weren’t extended by the NJ courts is unforgivable.
Some context:
https://twitter.com/YossiGestetner/status/1455964360887635974

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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #331 on: November 03, 2021, 09:12:03 PM »
One of the most trusted names in the biz is saying it, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss.
Can I dismiss it now?  :)
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Re: NJ governors debate
« Reply #332 on: November 03, 2021, 09:28:01 PM »

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Re: NJ State Politics Master Thread
« Reply #333 on: November 03, 2021, 09:28:50 PM »

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Re: NJ State Politics Master Thread
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Re: NJ State Politics Master Thread
« Reply #335 on: November 03, 2021, 10:32:21 PM »
Murphy speaking now

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Re: NJ State Politics Master Thread
« Reply #336 on: November 03, 2021, 10:57:13 PM »
Murphy speaking now

He’s digging into all the things that make him unpopular. 
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Re: NJ State Politics Master Thread
« Reply #337 on: November 03, 2021, 11:03:09 PM »
On a different scale, I feel tonight like I felt after the US Senate went Democrat from the Georgia runoff last year, and I'll explain why.

When Biden won last year, we Republicans thought, "Well, at least the Senate is Republican, and it will check his power to pass whatever radical agenda he wants." But when Wernock and Ossoff won and gave the Democrats control of both branches of the legislature, it was almost worse than the initial  election, as it gave Biden free reign to do whatever he wanted.

We are in a similar position now in New Jersey, though most laymen, who don't know the backstories of NJ politics, probably don't know. Governor Murphy's biggest check was Senate President Steve Sweeney. Sweeney, even though he is a Democrat, had tremendous aspirations to be governor in 2024 and refused to let Murphy roll out his agenda, and he never brought many of Murphy's plans up for a vote. It was only after tremendous negotiations that Murphy managed to get his Millionaire's Tax passed, which was his campaign promise, and he had to pull so many teeth to get it. In the next four years, when Murphy is not retrained by a future election, it was only Steve Sweeney who would've held him back from achieving success in all his agenda items. But alas, in the craziest upset of the night, it seems like Sweeney will not be a Senator next year, having been beat out by a truck driver who spent $152 on his campaign.

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Re: NJ State Politics Master Thread
« Reply #339 on: November 04, 2021, 12:31:28 AM »
He’s digging into all the things that make him unpopular.
He can't run again anyways so he will try to stuff his agenda down everyones throat without a care about his popularity.