NJ State Politics Master Thread

[yesitsme]

https://twitter.com/KolHaolam/status/1456353400984117257

[CountValentine]

https://twitter.com/KolHaolam/status/1456353400984117257

Would be the best thing for this country.

[yuneeq]

Would be the best thing for this country.

Everyone hates polls but we all wanna see them.

[CountValentine]

Everyone hates polls but we all wanna see them.

Not me. They should ban them, before and after the election.

[yuneeq]

Not me. They should ban them, before and after the election.

Don't think I would like that. I would ban polls that end up way beyond the margin of error. Stop being cocky and publish the real margin of error.

[CountValentine]

Sorry Lakewood but her is the reason it was close. 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/laura-ingraham-suggests-italian-american-voters-in-new-jersey-were-influenced-by-attacks-on-christopher-columbus/ar-AAQiAKU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

[TimT]

This.

I personally know people that did not vote, or didn't vote for governor for this very reason.

I’m not understanding this. Nobody knows who you’re voting for. You can vote for the Republican & go around telling everyone you voted Murphy.
Staying home is just utter stupidity. You’re anyways disregarding the VAAD. נישט אהין און נישט אהער

[CountValentine]

I’m not understanding this. Nobody knows who you’re voting for. You can vote for the Republican & go around telling everyone you voted Murphy.

You know. 

[TimT]

You know. 

So ? By staying home & not voting

You’re anyways disregarding the VAAD.

[CountValentine]

So ? By staying home & not voting

They are probably thinking they are not going against the endorsement if they don't vote.

[TimT]

They are probably thinking they are not going against the endorsement if they don't vote.

I think it’s just a convenient excuse to cover up their laziness.

[yesitsme]

I’m not understanding this. Nobody knows who you’re voting for. You can vote for the Republican & go around telling everyone you voted Murphy.
Staying home is just utter stupidity. You’re anyways disregarding the VAAD. נישט אהין און נישט אהער

the potential guilty feelings if it doesn't end up being the right result

[yuneeq]

They are probably thinking they are not going against the endorsement if they don't vote.

Could be. I think a lot of it was analysis paralysis. Hard to vote against your moral compass even if you feel otherwise. You will likely end up not voting at all.

[TimT]

the potential guilty feelings

This isn’t “voter suppression”

[yuneeq]

This isn’t “voter suppression”

I don't see him making that point, but in fact it is voter suppression, it just isn't illegal - nor should it be.

[TimT]

I don't see him making that point, but in fact it is voter suppression, it just isn't illegal - nor should it be.

They make their endorsement & that’s the end of that. Nobody knows who you vote for, they’re not placing anyone at the polling sites to intimidate you, or any other action. Anyone choosing not to vote is suppressing themselves.

[yuneeq]

They make their endorsement & that’s the end of that. Nobody knows who you vote for, they’re not placing anyone at the polling sites to intimidate you, or any other action. Anyone choosing not to vote is suppressing themselves.

Many people that would’ve voted for Jack were influenced out of voting due to the influx of campaign ads and Kol Koreh’s to vote for Murphy. People felt guilty to vote against Murphy, it doesn’t matter if anyone finds out how you voted if you think there’s even a 10% chance that your vote is against God’s will. They absolutely suppressed the vote, but not in a illegal sense.

[sddd]

So...had the Vaad endorsed Jack, lets assume for arguments sake that Jack would have won. Lakewood would get no credit as the R/D split would have mirrored the 2020 R/D split. Now, with the clear change in historical split, the Vaad gets recognized as having been influential in deciding the winner and thats a good thing. A bloc vote, whether or not its for the candidate you support (and i personally support jack) is more important strategically long term.

[yesitsme]

So...had the Vaad endorsed Jack, lets assume for arguments sake that Jack would have won. Lakewood would get no credit as the R/D split would have mirrored the 2020 R/D split. Now, with the clear change in historical split, the Vaad gets recognized as having been influential in deciding the winner and thats a good thing. A bloc vote, whether or not its for the candidate you support (and i personally support jack) is more important strategically long term.

Vaads influence is diminishing year over year

[yuneeq]

So...had the Vaad endorsed Jack, lets assume for arguments sake that Jack would have won. Lakewood would get no credit as the R/D split would have mirrored the 2020 R/D split. Now, with the clear change in historical split, the Vaad gets recognized as having been influential in deciding the winner and thats a good thing. A bloc vote, whether or not its for the candidate you support (and i personally support jack) is more important strategically long term.

Incorrect. The vaad backed Murphy in 2017 and he garnered more than 50% of the vote just a year after trump became president. Additionally, turnout would have been higher than previous gubernatorial elections and attributable to them as well.

As many have stated - the most important thing was to vote no matter the candidate. We are swing voters, literally every vote matters.