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Guilty or not guilty?

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #340 on: November 10, 2021, 03:43:34 PM »
Glad you are objective.  :)

Lol, like I said, I didn't have an opinion either way before the trial. Before the defense even called witnesses it was clear they had squat, and they had to know that.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #341 on: November 10, 2021, 03:46:01 PM »
Lol, like I said, I didn't have an opinion either way before the trial. Before the defense even called witnesses it was clear they had squat, and they had to know that.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #342 on: November 10, 2021, 03:53:04 PM »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #343 on: November 10, 2021, 03:53:43 PM »
Very interesting point about digitally enhanced video/image. Valid point.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #344 on: November 10, 2021, 04:02:14 PM »
Very interesting point about digitally enhanced video/image. Valid point.
What is the defense afraid of?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #345 on: November 10, 2021, 04:02:47 PM »
Very interesting point about digitally enhanced video/image. Valid point.
I don't believe Apple does that, it's all bogus.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #346 on: November 10, 2021, 04:04:53 PM »
Very interesting point about digitally enhanced video/image. Valid point.
The judge don't even know what he said.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #347 on: November 10, 2021, 04:06:07 PM »
What is the defense afraid of?
Misrepresentation? Improper video being shown? Is that not a valid fear, especially when it can be very damning for either side?


I don't believe Apple does that, it's all bogus.
Most devices do it when shooting footage I believe, not sure about after the fact.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #348 on: November 10, 2021, 04:06:42 PM »
The judge don't even know what he said.
Seems like he understood everything he needed to. He just has no knowledge on the matter.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #349 on: November 10, 2021, 04:06:58 PM »
Very interesting point about digitally enhanced video/image. Valid point.

I know close to nothing about how this stuff works, but if it was adding pixels or altering the image, why does pinch and zoom only work on higher resolution images? Surely the zoom only works as much as the resolution allows, which is why the lower the resolution, the more pixelated an image becomes when you zoom in.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #350 on: November 10, 2021, 04:07:29 PM »
Ok, take the picture and have it blown up.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #351 on: November 10, 2021, 04:08:54 PM »
What is the defense afraid of?
The gun, in this image, is how many pixels? if 2 or 3 black pixel are moved, even by a pixel, especially on a dark background, it can show the gun pointing at a dif angle.
And that's why they so badly want to show it.

and AFAIK, pixels do get filled in. Some software is better at it than other.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #352 on: November 10, 2021, 04:08:58 PM »
Most devices do it when shooting footage I believe, not sure about after the fact.
Devices use algorithms regardless of zoom.
He's referring to enhancing the quality when zooming in after the fact, there's no way a phones doing that instantly in real time while a video is being played.

How much would they pay for a pro? Something tells me they are looking for one ;D
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #353 on: November 10, 2021, 04:09:56 PM »
Seems like he understood everything he needed to. He just has no knowledge on the matter.
At one point he said he will let it in and then verified. Right before the break he changed that. Maybe he misspoke the first time.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #354 on: November 10, 2021, 04:11:12 PM »
We need @Something Fishy on this one.
Does the zoom feature on your phone add pixels when zooming?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #355 on: November 10, 2021, 04:13:48 PM »
At one point he said he will let it in and then verified. Right before the break he changed that. Maybe he misspoke the first time.
He actually mentioned that specifically before the break. He said "If I said that, shame on me". Also, when he said it previously, he said he could enter it but not as "unaltered" or implying that it was in it's original format.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #356 on: November 10, 2021, 04:14:17 PM »
The only claim that perhaps can be made is really about any footage (especially night footage) since nowadays algorithms are used to enhance the quality, can we really trust the footage.

Does the zoom feature on your phone add pixels when zooming?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #357 on: November 10, 2021, 04:17:00 PM »
The only claim that perhaps can be made is really about any footage (especially night footage) since nowadays algorithms are used to enhance the quality, can we really trust the footage.
Then we will have to decide btwn the drones footage or the phone footage.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #358 on: November 10, 2021, 04:18:11 PM »
He actually mentioned that specifically before the break. He said "If I said that, shame on me". Also, when he said it previously, he said he could enter it but not as "unaltered" or implying that it was in it's original format.
I defer to you re-watching it.  :)
He said he would let it in with some type of insurance from the prosecution. Can't remember the exact words.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #359 on: November 10, 2021, 04:24:03 PM »
The gun, in this image, is how many pixels? if 2 or 3 black pixel are moved, even by a pixel, especially on a dark background, it can show the gun pointing at a dif angle.
And that's why they so badly want to show it.

and AFAIK, pixels do get filled in. Some software is better at it than other.


Then they would have shown this evidence already. How could they possibly risk saving it until KR cross, when there is a strong likelihood the defense doesn't put him on the stand?