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Guilty or not guilty?

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #900 on: November 20, 2021, 06:19:17 PM »
Unlike Israel bearing arms is a right every citizen has unlike beer that was banned for sometime
I am sorry but open carry like that is not constitutionally protected
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #901 on: November 20, 2021, 06:19:33 PM »
Unlike Israel bearing arms is a right every citizen has unlike beer that was banned for sometime
Are you being intentionally asinine?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #902 on: November 20, 2021, 06:21:01 PM »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #903 on: November 20, 2021, 06:22:59 PM »
Come on. He walked into what he knew was a super hostile environment with an AR15 and engaged with and provoked violent angry drunk people from the other side. They never thought he'd shoot them. He came in prepared to do so.

Like I've said all along, in the moment it was self defense. But let's not downplay his sheer recklessness and stupidity.

Had he been a hired security guard, would anyone here be having this discussion, or would his right to be there and defend himself be clear?

Was the only crime that he was a volunteer?

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #904 on: November 20, 2021, 06:23:12 PM »
Thanks for the kind words
Maybe educated yourself first about gun laws?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #905 on: November 20, 2021, 06:25:15 PM »
Had he been a hired security guard, would anyone here be having this discussion, or would his right to be there and defend himself be clear?

Was the only crime that he was a volunteer?
I would hope a security guard would have an ounce of common sense.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #906 on: November 20, 2021, 06:26:36 PM »
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #907 on: November 20, 2021, 06:27:34 PM »
I would hope a security guard would have an ounce of common sense.

Hope is not a strategy. Neither is circumventing a question.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #908 on: November 20, 2021, 06:29:59 PM »
I am sorry but open carry like that is not constitutionally protected
IIUC, that is the only way he was legally allowed to carry. Whether you believe him or not, he testified that if he could he would've carried a pistol.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #909 on: November 20, 2021, 06:33:32 PM »
Hope is not a strategy. Neither is circumventing a question.
I didn't think your question was serious.
It was not a crime being a volunteer. Every decision leading up to the shootings was a complete lack of common sense. If the decisions he made prior to shootings was a crime he would have been convicted in a heartbeat.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #910 on: November 20, 2021, 06:37:20 PM »
IIUC, that is the only way he was legally allowed to carry. Whether you believe him or not, he testified that if he could he would've carried a pistol.
Do you really believe he thought he could legally carry the AR15 at age 17?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #911 on: November 20, 2021, 06:39:17 PM »
Do you really believe he thought he could legally carry the AR15 at age 17?

Turns out he was right about that, no?

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #912 on: November 20, 2021, 06:40:26 PM »
I didn't think your question was serious.
It was not a crime being a volunteer. Every decision leading up to the shootings was a complete lack of common sense. If the decisions he made prior to shootings was a crime he would have been convicted in a heartbeat.

If he would've been 18 and accepted a position as an armed security guard that night, would he have been well within his rights be to there?

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #913 on: November 20, 2021, 06:41:52 PM »
Turns out he was right about that, no?
You missed the point. He claimed he would have had a pistol if he could legally carry. My point is he thought the AR15 was illegal but did it anyway.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #914 on: November 20, 2021, 06:42:31 PM »
If he would've been 18 and accepted a position as an armed security guard that night, would he have been well within his rights be to there?
I would think so but not to be roaming the streets.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #916 on: November 20, 2021, 07:14:15 PM »
I would think so but not to be roaming the streets.

Where the incident occurred, he was protecting a specific establishment, in a mannerism which you believe wouldn't have been foolish and unjustified had he been hired, no? His sole stupidity was his altruism? For that everyone is jumping on him?


I have no skin in this game, btw. I'm not emotionally involved either way. I'm just playing devils advocate, same as you are. I happen to think that I picked a way more defensible side.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #917 on: November 20, 2021, 07:21:34 PM »
Where the incident occurred, he was protecting a specific establishment, in a mannerism which you believe wouldn't have been foolish and unjustified had he been hired, no? His sole stupidity was his altruism? For that everyone is jumping on him?


I have no skin in this game, btw. I'm not emotionally involved either way. I'm just playing devils advocate, same as you are. I happen to think that I picked a way more defensible side.
You picked the side of you can't use deadly force to protect property. So why did he bring the AR15 if he was protecting property?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #918 on: November 20, 2021, 07:23:17 PM »
My point is he thought the AR15 was illegal

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #919 on: November 20, 2021, 07:23:41 PM »
You picked the side of you can't use deadly force to protect property. So why did he bring the AR15 if he was protecting property?
To protect himself while using non deadly force to protect property.

ETA: And he didn't use deadly force to protect property, he only used it to protect himself.
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