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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #720 on: November 17, 2021, 06:14:41 PM »
Jury is home for the night, will return at 9 tomorrow morning to continue.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #721 on: November 17, 2021, 06:15:40 PM »
Jury is home for the night, will return at 9 tomorrow morning to continue.
This is a good sign.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #722 on: November 17, 2021, 06:34:27 PM »
This is a good sign.

Definitely good when the jury makes the effort to come to a just verdict.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #723 on: November 17, 2021, 06:36:28 PM »
Definitely good when the jury makes the effort to come to a just verdict.
Bingo!!! Complex case and I would be extremely disappointed if they came back with a verdict in a couple days.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #725 on: November 17, 2021, 06:52:39 PM »

...and what kind you see in one and not see in the other?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #726 on: November 17, 2021, 07:20:45 PM »
If I was the on the jury, and I saw the clearer video, I'd acquit on the spot due to self-defense. The other video is not as clear and I wouldn't be so sure.
Now, you might come to a different conclusion than me, but the fact that someone reasonable like me would change his/her mind based on the quality of the video, and the prosecution deliberately withheld this from the defense, is grounds for a mistrial with prejudice.
You might disagree that I'm reasonable, but someone like me would think I'm reasonable. And there are many people like me.
And you might think that the prosecution wasn't deliberate, but the judge already said that he doesn't believe the prosecutor is acting in good faith.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #727 on: November 17, 2021, 07:27:44 PM »
https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1461035214977777674
Wow!  We can really see clearly exactly what's going on, which is definitely self defense. I think these prosecutors should lose their job.  It's not the prosecutors job to lie, it's their job to flex the truth to their side. 
#TYH

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #728 on: November 17, 2021, 07:28:18 PM »
If I was the on the jury, and I saw the clearer video, I'd acquit on the spot due to self-defense.
...and what can you see in one and not see in the other?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #729 on: November 17, 2021, 07:29:18 PM »
Wow!  We can really see clearly exactly what's going on, which is definitely self defense.
...and what can you see in one and not see in the other?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #730 on: November 17, 2021, 07:33:09 PM »

We can see the danger kyle was in. As you can see clearly someone running after him with a vengeance


You don't see anything that would further indicate self defense?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #731 on: November 17, 2021, 07:36:44 PM »
We can see the danger kyle was in. As you can see clearly someone running after him with a vengeance


You don't see anything that would further indicate self defense?
I see that in the low resolution one also. What is clear in this video is KR first shot shows R in an upright position and not lunging or grabbing KR gun. Exactly what the forensic expert testified to.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #732 on: November 17, 2021, 08:38:17 PM »
I see that in the low resolution one also. What is clear in this video is KR first shot shows R in an upright position and not lunging or grabbing KR gun. Exactly what the forensic expert testified to.

...as an act of self defense. I'd acquit on the spot.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #733 on: November 17, 2021, 08:43:40 PM »
...as an act of self defense. I'd acquit on the spot.
Good thing you are not on the jury.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #734 on: November 17, 2021, 08:49:04 PM »
I wonder if it's really possible to get a unanimous verdict on a case like this?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #735 on: November 17, 2021, 08:51:34 PM »
I wonder if it's really possible to get a unanimous verdict on a case like this?
Current odds.
1/2 unanimous on at least one count
8/1 unanimous on all counts
18/1 hung jury on all counts
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #736 on: November 17, 2021, 09:10:11 PM »
Is the second motion to dismiss WITHOUT prejudice?
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #737 on: November 17, 2021, 09:17:39 PM »
https://twitter.com/benandjerrys/status/1458964448924819460
Trial would be going the same way but those who feel he is innocent/guilty would be flipped.
Where is the dislike button? Sick and tired of all the race-baiting.

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #738 on: November 17, 2021, 09:19:49 PM »
Where is the dislike button? Sick and tired of all the race-baiting.
What are you talking about? People are in their political corners. That doesn't effect the trial as I have said.
The innocent/guilty is not talking about the jury.  ::)
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?
« Reply #739 on: November 17, 2021, 09:36:28 PM »
This kid should have never been there and should have never been carrying a gun. Lets not forget that was an illegal gun and it was illegal for him to carry it. He panicked and now individuals are dead. He can have his life ruined because he wanted to play Rambo.

Good thing you are not on the jury.