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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2021, 10:14:06 PM »
Did I mention anything about believing. The bottom line is that these measures put lots of money in people's pockets.
So does armed robbery, but I donít think youíd call that positive.

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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2021, 10:16:34 PM »
Many of the measures are due to state of emergency.

Did I mention anything about believing. The bottom line is that these measures put lots of money in people's pockets.
You must have missed this thread.

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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2021, 10:20:16 PM »
You must have missed this thread.
From that thread
More than monetary devaluation, I am concerned about moral devaluation. Easy money has a moral and character cost.

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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2021, 10:53:54 PM »
Now our esteemed governor whats-her-name has declared a... state of emergency, because reasons.

And Israel is closing its borders for two weeks.
IMO this pushing of elective surgeries is due to a nursing shortage because of the vaccine mandate. Perfect timing for her to blame it on the "new variant" instead of on vaccine mandate..

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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2021, 07:48:20 AM »
IMO this pushing of elective surgeries is due to a nursing shortage because of the vaccine mandate. Perfect timing for her to blame it on the "new variant" instead of on vaccine mandate..
Isn't it a federal mandate? Why should she need anything to blame it on?

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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2021, 08:02:35 AM »



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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2021, 11:10:02 AM »
Isn't it a federal mandate? Why should she need anything to blame it on?
Federal is only going into effect on December 5th. New York started enforcing this I believe about a month ago. The emergency room in Long Beach has already been closed due to staffing shortage.

Edit: I see it has already reopened

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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2021, 12:46:26 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/doctor-who-first-raised-concern-over-omicron-variant-says-symptoms-are-mild/ar-AARdolW?ocid=msedgntp
The symptoms is not what is so concerning at this point as there are a relatively small amount of people affected. Her opinion is not supperior because she discovered itÖ.
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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2021, 01:03:31 PM »
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/26/africa/new-covid-variant-discovered-south-africa-b11529-intl/index.html


ď "It is the most heavily mutated version of the virus we have seen to date. This variant carries some changes we've seen previously in other variants but never all together in one virus. It also has novel mutationsĒ Crucially, South African genomic scientists said Thursday more than 30 of the mutations were found in the spike protein -- the structure the virus uses to get into the cells they attack.

Neil Ferguson, the director of the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College London, said in a statement the number of mutations on the spike protein was "unprecedented."

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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2021, 02:14:18 PM »
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/26/africa/new-covid-variant-discovered-south-africa-b11529-intl/index.html


ď "It is the most heavily mutated version of the virus we have seen to date. This variant carries some changes we've seen previously in other variants but never all together in one virus. It also has novel mutationsĒ Crucially, South African genomic scientists said Thursday more than 30 of the mutations were found in the spike protein -- the structure the virus uses to get into the cells they attack.

Neil Ferguson, the director of the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College London, said in a statement the number of mutations on the spike protein was "unprecedented."
Why are we still quoting this idiot?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #52 on: November 28, 2021, 02:19:44 PM »
Why are we still quoting this idiot?
Idiot?
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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #53 on: November 28, 2021, 03:09:49 PM »
The symptoms is not what is so concerning at this point as there are a relatively small amount of people affected. Her opinion is not supperior because she discovered itÖ.

So the small number is not enough to substantiate claims that itís more mild, then those same small numbers should also be insufficient to substantiate claims that itís more severe or more transmissible (saw exaggerations as high as 500x more transmissible, Iím not sure where the Israeli media got that bizarre figure), especially when the pool of confirmed infections with this variant thus far donít sustain any of that.

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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #55 on: November 28, 2021, 03:35:13 PM »
GIYF
but start here
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-52553229
Fair enough.
So we don't listen to anyone and call them idiots for an indiscretion?  :)

ETA: This reminds me how they crucified Dr Deborah Birx because she traveled to close her summer home. Now we no longer have one of the top experts in field. 
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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #56 on: November 28, 2021, 03:47:33 PM »
So the small number is not enough to substantiate claims that itís more mild, then those same small numbers should also be insufficient to substantiate claims that itís more severe or more transmissible (saw exaggerations as high as 500x more transmissible, Iím not sure where the Israeli media got that bizarre figure), especially when the pool of confirmed infections with this variant thus far donít sustain any of that.

ď"It is the most heavily mutated version of the virus we have seen to date. This variant carries some changes we've seen previously in other variants but never all together in one virus. It also has novel mutationsĒ Crucially, South African genomic scientists said Thursday more than 30 of the mutations were found in the spike protein -- the structure the virus uses to get into the cells they attack.



like everyone else I wish and hope that this turns out to be a dud but to say that itís nothing based on your understanding of the facts is ignorant

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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #57 on: November 28, 2021, 03:51:16 PM »
Fair enough.
So we don't listen to anyone and call them idiots for an indiscretion?  :)

ETA: This reminds me how they crucified Dr Deborah Birx because she traveled to close her summer home. Now we no longer have one of the top experts in field.
personally i dont care for the term idiot for that lot
it's the do as i say not do as i do hypocritical attitude that makes them lose their "expert" status
cue Phil Collins song

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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #58 on: November 28, 2021, 03:55:13 PM »
like everyone else I wish and hope that this turns out to be a dud but to say that itís nothing based on your understanding of the facts is ignorant

Nobody said itís nothing. All I said is that even the experts donít *know* itís terrible, some experts fear it might be.

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Re: The Sky Is Falling! Yet Another Variant
« Reply #59 on: November 28, 2021, 04:22:30 PM »
it's the do as i say not do as i do hypocritical attitude that makes them lose their "expert" status
Why? Look at Birx. One inconsequential mistake and the field she dedicated her life to is just washed down the drain? Her expert advice is no longer considered expert advice because she traveled to close her summer home?

Take anyone you consider an expert in their field. Now if they do something that they preach don't do, they then are no longer an expert? Doesn't seem right.
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