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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2021, 09:38:07 AM »
I don't know, but I know 110 years is not, primarily because the judge said that his hands were tied. In almost every case the judge says his hands are tied, the given sentence is not justice.
No one is arguing for 110 years. Is 5 years proper for someone who is responsible for four people dying?
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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2021, 09:50:53 AM »
Is 5 years justice?
Found guilty:
six counts of vehicular homicide
six counts of first-degree assault
10 counts of attempted first-degree assault
six counts of careless driving
one count of reckless driving
"An average sentence for vehicular homicide can range anywhere from three to fifteen years. There is an enormous amount of debate about whether or not the sentence length is long enough for the offence. Some argue that there can never be a long enough sentence for taking someone's life."
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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2021, 09:55:58 AM »
No one is arguing for 110 years. Is 5 years proper for someone who is responsible for four people dying?

Just reading about this now. Trying to understand what terrible, reckless decisions he made, haven’t seen it detailed in a couple articles I read.

“During sentencing, the judge also acknowledged that Aguilera-Mederos didn’t intend to harm anyone, but that under guidelines set by the law his sentence could be no less than 110 years.

“I accept and respect what the defendant has said about his lack of intent to hurt people, but he made a series of terrible decisions, reckless decisions,” the judge said.”
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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2021, 09:57:54 AM »
Just reading about this now. Trying to understand what terrible, reckless decisions he made, haven’t seen it detailed in a couple articles I read.
All we can go by is what the jury found him guilty of according to the law.
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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2021, 10:04:57 AM »
Just reading about this now. Trying to understand what terrible, reckless decisions he made, haven’t seen it detailed in a couple articles I read.
Watch the video upthread.

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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2021, 10:45:51 AM »
Before we go 100 pages talking about two different things what is your definition of justice?


The answer to this will take some time to type. Can't do that today. But prison is used for vengeance and retribution, and that I disagree with entirely.

Rehabilitation, restitution, deterant.

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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2021, 11:02:21 AM »
The answer to this will take some time to type. Can't do that today. But prison is used for vengeance and retribution, and that I disagree with entirely.

Rehabilitation, restitution, deterant.
The main purpose I look at prison for is punishment. In that sense it serves justice.
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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2021, 12:05:56 PM »
No one is arguing for 110 years. Is 5 years proper for someone who is responsible for four people dying?
Some say it was his company's fault.

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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2021, 12:10:39 PM »
Some say it was his company's fault.
I understand but that is not what the jury said with their verdict.
Vehicular homicide definition: A crime in which the defendant's unlawful or negligent operation of a motor vehicle results in the death of another person.
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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2021, 12:12:09 PM »
I understand but that is not what the jury said with their verdict.
Maybe he didn't have a good enough lawyer? A judge, I believe, can overrule the jury.

"Your fate is in the hands of 9 people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty"

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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2021, 12:14:12 PM »
Maybe he didn't have a good enough lawyer? A judge, I believe, can overrule the jury.
...but the judge didn't.
"Your fate is in the hands of 9 people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty"
What idiot said that?
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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2021, 12:15:52 PM »
...but the judge didn't. What idiot said that?
Its an old saying. Sad but partly true.

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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2021, 12:18:23 PM »
Its an old saying. Sad but partly true.
Not true it all. Anyone who tries to get out of jury duty for fake reasons should be put in jail. They would probably apply to many here.  :-[
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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2021, 01:10:33 PM »
They would probably apply to many here.  :-[

Why would you say this?

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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2021, 01:28:19 PM »
Not true it all. Anyone who tries to get out of jury duty for fake reasons should be put in jail. They would probably apply to many here.  :-[
From my experience, the difference between "getting out" of it or not isn't whether you actually serve on the Jury but rather whether you miss the day of the jury selection process. One of the things they ask potential jurors is whether they are ready to serve. If they aren't then they will only use them if there aren't enough willing. I have been told by more than one judge that they have never yet needed to keep someone who didn't want to be there.
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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2021, 01:31:39 PM »
Why would you say this?
There is a thread about to get out of jury duty.
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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2021, 03:03:48 PM »
Not true it all. Anyone who tries to get out of jury duty for fake reasons should be put in jail. They would probably apply to many here.  :-[
I know people who just throw out the letters for years and nothing happens. If it isn't sent certified mail then nothing doing.

Are they a danger to society?

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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2021, 03:15:56 PM »
Probably should've been 20-30 years.

I think the real problem here is with the prosecutors who "overcharged" him to begin with, knowing the sentence if he's convicted.

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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2021, 03:22:58 PM »
Probably should've been 20-30 years.
Many say it was his company's fault.

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Re: Truck Driver Gets 110 Years After His Breaks Fail
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2021, 03:40:03 PM »
Are they a danger to society?
No
Many say it was his company's fault.
Don't matter what many say, the jury decides!!!
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