States With the Most Hate Groups

[YitzyS]

I think you missed (not personally).

Ah, so it's "all you Jews are the same"?

[CountValentine]

Ah, so it's "all you Jews are the same"?

Where did this come from?

[CountValentine]

The irony of a picture of a swastika on the JDL page.

Thank you. Now I understand.

[CountValentine]

They don't even have anti-semitic groups as a category on the map.

They have anti-Semitic groups on the map like NOI. I am sure there are others.

[aygart]

They have anti-Semitic groups on the map like NOI. I am sure there are others.

NOI is a black supremacist group. They call that "General Hate" similar to the Proud Boys. Anti-semitic is not even a category.

[CountValentine]

BLM isn't on their list.

...and?
New Black Panther Party is.

[CountValentine]

NOI is a black supremacist group. They call that "General Hate" similar to the Proud Boys. Anti-semitic is not even a category.

When you hate so many different groups then general hate is a pretty accurate term, no?

[CountValentine]

They have many neo-Nazi groups on their list.
Just one example: The National Alliance (NA) was for decades the most dangerous and best organized neo-Nazi formation in America. Explicitly genocidal in its ideology, NA materials call for the eradication of the Jews and other races and the creation of an all-white homeland.

[gozalim]

Anti-semitic is not even a category.

hmm. Jews are so well liked in America today that there's no group out there that hates us just for that. We're only hated by those rednecks that hate everybody. That must be it.

/s

[Yehuda57]

They have many neo-Nazi groups on their list.
Just one example: The National Alliance (NA) was for decades the most dangerous and best organized neo-Nazi formation in America. Explicitly genocidal in its ideology, NA materials call for the eradication of the Jews and other races and the creation of an all-white homeland.

You don't seem to understand the bias involved. Remember my post from a few years ago to a JTZ fellow?

@JTZ - I apologize for the wall of text, but I feel this is important context to provide for the discussion.

[aygart]

You don't seem to understand the bias involved. Remember my post from a few years ago to a JTZ fellow?
 

What percentage would you estimate experienced anti-semitism from people affiliated with or even sympathizers of the groups listed by SPLC vs. groups that they don't even have a category for? Personally, I have experienced anti-semitism a number of times and only one do I even consider it a possibility, albeit with no indication one way or another, that they would at all sympathize with a neo-nazi group.

[Yehuda57]

What percentage would you estimate experienced anti-semitism from people affiliated with or even sympathizers of the groups listed by SPLC vs. groups that they don't even have a category for? Personally, I have experienced anti-semitism a number of times and only one do I even consider it a possibility, albeit with no indication one way or another, that they would at all sympathize with a neo-nazi group.

It depends on where you are.

I think it's clear from the responses there and my anecdotal knowledge, in the US a visible Jew is most likely to experience antisemitism from black or Hispanic people, with a tiny fraction experiencing it from right wing neo Nazi types.

In other countries, you're more likely to experience it from Islamic people, and in others, neo Nazis.

[aygart]

It depends on where you are.

I think it's clear from the responses there and my anecdotal knowledge, in the US a visible Jew is most likely to experience antisemitism from black or Hispanic people, with a tiny fraction experiencing it from right wing neo Nazi types.

In other countries, you're more likely to experience it from Islamic people, and in others, neo Nazis.

I would guess that it also depends on the location within the US with area with more neonazi groups one would be more likely to experience it from them than in NYC. Either way the point stands that the SPLC list is deeply flawed and seemingly those who have not actually been on the receiving end will somewhat understandably have a difficult time getting past their preconceived notions to understand it.