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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #60 on: February 13, 2022, 01:46:04 PM »
In short, they make the list.
Yes, because of our ally Israel.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #62 on: February 13, 2022, 02:34:23 PM »
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #63 on: February 13, 2022, 02:40:57 PM »
If you are talking about threat to the world then remove Iran and replace them with NK.

If you are talking about threat to the US then Iran is nowhere on the list.

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While Iran might not have the capability to launch missiles onto US territory, and they might not (yet) posses nuclear warheads, their tentacles spread wide and are a constant irritation (to say the least) on US and global (economic and other) interest.

While Iran can almost singlehandedly be credited with the cozying up between the Israelis and the Emiratis, the Bahrainis, the Omanis and the Saudis, it cannot be said that it was brought about due to the peace in coexistence inspiration of the Iranian regime.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #64 on: February 13, 2022, 03:01:33 PM »
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While Iran might not have the capability to launch missiles onto US territory, and they might not (yet) posses nuclear warheads, their tentacles spread wide and are a constant irritation (to say the least) on US and global (economic and other) interest.

While Iran can almost singlehandedly be credited with the cozying up between the Israelis and the Emiratis, the Bahrainis, the Omanis and the Saudis, it cannot be said that it was brought about due to the peace in coexistence inspiration of the Iranian regime.
Iran is more a middle east issue.

The big threat is Iran teaming up with China and/or Russia.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #65 on: February 13, 2022, 03:17:48 PM »
Iran is more a middle east issue.

The big threat is Iran teaming up with China and/or Russia.

I have a hunch you are old enough to remember 1973 right here on the mainland of the US of A, that was a middle east issue, wasn't it?

And BTW, since we're talking NATO (article 5 mentions by Putin), IINM Iran missiles can reach quite a few NATO member states (and overseas bases).
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #66 on: February 13, 2022, 03:21:59 PM »
I have a hunch you are old enough to remember 1973 right here on the mainland of the US of A, that was a middle east issue, wasn't it?
The embargo?
A middle east issue which we joined.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #67 on: February 13, 2022, 03:23:14 PM »
The embargo?
A middle east issue which we joined.

And NATO?
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #68 on: February 13, 2022, 03:24:01 PM »
And BTW, since we're talking NATO (article 5 mentions by Putin), IINM Iran missiles can reach quite a few NATO member states (and overseas bases).
Speaking on NATO, what happens if Iran gets something similar from China or Russia. While that is not good for the US we all know who will be screwed if that happens.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #69 on: February 13, 2022, 03:28:52 PM »
The big threat is Iran teaming up with China and/or Russia.

This just shows how physically short-stature Putin is a geopolitical giant compared to the midgets we have in Washington (and many other western capitals).

Putin is no fool, he has his interests, and does business with both Iran and China, but keeps them at bay! He couldn't have said it clearer than he did in the video clip I posted above. He doesn't want war. But at the same token he wants to protect Russian interests at Russia's doorstep. Germany (and much or Europe) is heavily dependent on Russia for energy. He knows that which might be why he's flexing muscles in the winter (which has brought many Russian foes to their knees throughout history).
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #70 on: February 13, 2022, 03:40:17 PM »
This just shows how physically short-stature Putin is a geopolitical giant compared to the midgets we have in Washington (and many other western capitals).

Putin is no fool, he has his interests, and does business with both Iran and China, but keeps them at bay! He couldn't have said it clearer than he did in the video clip I posted above. He doesn't want war. But at the same token he wants to protect Russian interests at Russia's doorstep. Germany (and much or Europe) is heavily dependent on Russia for energy. He knows that which might be why he's flexing muscles in the winter (which has brought many Russian foes to their knees throughout history).
I am not disagreeing. I just don't see Iran as a world threat as others do.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #71 on: February 13, 2022, 03:43:38 PM »
Germany (and much or Europe) is heavily dependent on Russia for energy. He knows that which might be why he's flexing muscles in the winter (which has brought many Russian foes to their knees throughout history).
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #72 on: February 13, 2022, 03:45:21 PM »
I am not disagreeing. I just don't see Iran as a world threat as others do.

Iran currently controls Lebanon (a tiny country at a strategic location) Syria and Yemen (another country at a strategic location). Other than it's own citizens, how many civilians (and soldiers) in other countries have been killed by NK? How many by Iran (including its proxies)?
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #73 on: February 13, 2022, 03:53:13 PM »
I am not disagreeing. I just don't see Iran as a world threat as others do.

Iran can destabilize the Middle East, and significant instability in the Middle East has game-changing global consequences. Another factor here is that Iran is a theocracy and thus their interests and decision-making go beyond territorial, economic, or political influence, which is a dangerous proposition.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #74 on: February 13, 2022, 03:57:13 PM »
Iran currently controls Lebanon (a tiny country at a strategic location) Syria and Yemen (another country at a strategic location). Other than it's own citizens, how many civilians (and soldiers) in other countries have been killed by NK? How many by Iran (including its proxies)?
If we are going by how civilians/soldiers have been killed I think we will have to look in the mirror?  ;)

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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #75 on: February 13, 2022, 03:59:38 PM »
If we are going by how civilians/soldiers have been killed I think we will have to look in the mirror?  ;)

Or just read
Here is another perspective.  ;)
https://astutenews.com/2017/05/10-countries-that-threaten-world-peace-more-than-north-korea/
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The point is that Iran is currently running several terror and military conflicts (and has been doing so for years). NK is mainly global threats (and domestic terror).
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #76 on: February 13, 2022, 04:48:57 PM »
The 3 biggest threats for world stability are the following 3 nations:
1) China
2) Iran
3) USA (under the Democrats)

Russia might take over Ukraine and maybe a few other small nations but then he will eventually die
NK might do some parades with their missiles, but they are all bark.

The USA under the wrong leadership charges into random countries at random times, kills lots of people, and gets hated and eventually leaves. Don't deny it. Examine history. They may mean well, but they are clueless into how the rest of the world works. Especially Muslim countries.
Iran supports terror all over the world.
China, just by the fact that they have 1.5 billion citizens, means that they terrorize 1.5 billion people + any nation around them. Plus they give weapons to anyone that asks.

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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #77 on: February 13, 2022, 05:01:51 PM »
USA (under the Democrats)

The USA under the wrong leadership charges into random countries at random times, kills lots of people, and gets hated and eventually leaves. Don't deny it. Examine history. They may mean well, but they are clueless into how the rest of the world works. Especially Muslim countries.
Iran supports terror all over the world.
China, just by the fact that they have 1.5 billion citizens, means that they terrorize 1.5 billion people + any nation around them. Plus they give weapons to anyone that asks.
LMAO!

How many wars have democratic administrations started in the past 50+ years?

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How many wars with Muslim nations in the past 250 years? 0 again.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #78 on: February 13, 2022, 05:03:29 PM »
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #79 on: February 13, 2022, 05:34:06 PM »
Chamberlain was a Democrat. Churchill was a Republican. You are right that Chamberlain did not get into a war and Churchill did. I guess we should've stuck with Democrats.

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