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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2021, 12:49:12 AM »
What's Russia seeking?
Take over all of Ukraine?

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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2021, 12:58:50 AM »
My guess is that Putin thinks by destabilizing the West he can make Russian and Russian ways of life seem better.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2021, 07:23:48 AM »
My guess is that Putin thinks by destabilizing the West he can make Russian and Russian ways of life seem better.

The way Russia looked in the 1980s should tell him what a poor strategy that’s been historically.

Isn’t Xmas in that part of the world January 6th? Or are they just trying to disrupt Xmas in the west?
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2021, 11:09:04 PM »
What's Russia seeking?
Take over all of Ukraine?

To restore the USSR.

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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2022, 02:30:05 AM »
Seems like this hasn't faded. I still don't understand the motive of Russia.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2022, 06:57:35 AM »
My guess is that Putin thinks by destabilizing the West he can make Russian and Russian ways of life seem better.

There's actually something to this. If you watch Russian TV, Putin has had several press conferences where he explicitly states how downhill things are going in America. Our fighting government, our new freedoms of gender, etc. And more and more of my parents generation are telling me if things continue - they are happy to move back. In-fact I know a handful of people who have moved back now. With work-from-home happening, the freedom to live in Moscow on an NYC salary is, frankly, pretty comfortable. I noticed this during the last few trips also, where a good healthy organic breakfast cost me $11, for 2. And a 45 minute cab ride cost me $9.

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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2022, 07:03:09 AM »
I still don't understand the motive of Russia.

For all of human history, wars have been fought over territory and borders. Why is it so hard for you to understand that this is what's happening here?

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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2022, 11:45:36 AM »
My guess is that Putin thinks by destabilizing the West he can make Russian and Russian ways of life seem better.
There's actually something to this. If you watch Russian TV, Putin has had several press conferences where he explicitly states how downhill things are going in America. Our fighting government, our new freedoms of gender, etc. And more and more of my parents generation are telling me if things continue - they are happy to move back. In-fact I know a handful of people who have moved back now. With work-from-home happening, the freedom to live in Moscow on an NYC salary is, frankly, pretty comfortable. I noticed this during the last few trips also, where a good healthy organic breakfast cost me $11, for 2. And a 45 minute cab ride cost me $9.

Seem better to whom? Westerners? Or Russian Expats in the West?

To me it seems like you and PG are saying two totally different things. PG is talking about Putin perpetuating an old Soviet canard about how everything in Russia is better than everything in the west.

What you're talking about is something completely different, individual Russian Expats making a personal decision that might make sense to them considering their circumstances and priorities.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2022, 11:58:54 AM »
I guess I was trying to connect how Putin's latest wave of "marketing" regarding how everything is better, is playing a role in changing the minds of russian expats, and some westerners. Take a look at the sheer amount of moving to moscow vlogs that have popped up on YouTube within the last year. However you may also be right.

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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2022, 12:02:38 PM »
I guess I was trying to connect how Putin's latest wave of "marketing" regarding how everything is better, is playing a role in changing the minds of russian expats, and some westerners. Take a look at the sheer amount of moving to moscow vlogs that have popped up on YouTube within the last year. However you may also be right.

I will 100% concede that I'm seriously concerned that America has passed the point of no return and it's downhill from here. But Russia isn't anywhere on my sights, and nothing Putin says will change that...
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2022, 06:56:42 PM »
Looks like one big game of risk to me.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2022, 07:52:30 PM »
Looks like one big game of risk to me.
Good thing Ukraine is a different continent and they would still need China and more to get 7 extra armies a turn.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2022, 08:55:28 PM »
Good thing Ukraine is a different continent and they would still need China and more to get 7 extra armies a turn.

@Randomex would appreciate this one…
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2022, 08:57:00 PM »
WT*?

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1483918639535472645

Is that what he means by “Russia will be held accountable”? Pathetic.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2022, 08:59:08 PM »
Putin would never have tried this with Trump, he knew Trump is crazy. Instead he’s doing it with Biden, who he knows is out for lunch.
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2022, 03:03:50 PM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Is Russia going to invade Ukraine on Christmas Eve?
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2022, 12:48:04 AM »
For all those hypocrits out there:

https://twitter.com/s_mikhailovich/status/1486751004251115531?s=21

This thought experiment would be relevant to Russia if:

1 - Mexico had recently gotten out of the oppression of the US.
2 - The US installed a puppet government in Mexico.
3 - The US had recently decided to take a chunk of Mexico for ourselves.