WAR! Russia Attacks Ukraine Master Thread

[TimT]

they probably wont shoot down a passenger plane, but it wont be pretty

A passenger jet gets surrounded by military jets & forced to turn around or land.

[jj1000]

I really don't get the Russians military strategy, they're clearly not using their full military superiority/firepower,

Sending in light units to kharkiv is like they did in ww2, gave their troops hunting rifles to attack the Germans where they became cannn fodder.

The Ukrainian governor of kharkiv claims the Russians are surrending easily, claiming exhaustion & no food or central command (if you believe him)

Well, what are putins intentions? To level the country and destroy it, if so your questions make sense. If he's looking to occupy might also make sense. But if he's looking to put a puppet in place that'd never work if he carpet bombs the country. Resistance will last forever.

Side point everyone talking about how Putin is crazier than usual, is he just taking a play our of Trump's playbook, act like you will do something crazy, bluff, scare the $*%&$ out of everyone, and get what you want.

Going on nuclear alert plays into that.

[CountValentine]

the us was ukraines greatest ally as well. asach gehulfen (helped them allot)
the israelis should be smarter than that, and do what is best for them, the first consideration being what keeps them alive, not what the us wants to hear them parrot

Then our military support and aid should reflect that.

[CountValentine]

So the problem is the optics of a few comments he said ? Everything in that article is calling out Russia. I don’t think anyone is arguing Putin is not a cunning fox. Hence your rant = TDS

You keep making it about him. It is not about just him. It is the praise from the right that is used against "US" for propaganda purpose. Anyone that supports/praises this murdering dictator is part of the problem, not the solution!

[yuneeq]

I really don't get the Russians military strategy, they're clearly not using their full military superiority/firepower,

Sending in light units to kharkiv is like they did in ww2, gave their troops hunting rifles to attack the Germans where they became cannn fodder.

The Ukrainian governor of kharkiv claims the Russians are surrending easily, claiming exhaustion & no food or central command (if you believe him)

I believe him because the rest of what you wrote is true. Weak disorganized attack, sending troops in without any armor. You see vehicles stuck on the road with no fuel. The equipment the Russians are using is old garbage in bad condition.

[CountValentine]

Side point everyone talking about how Putin is crazier than usual, is he just taking a play our of Trump's playbook, act like you will do something crazy, bluff, scare the $*%&$ out of everyone, and get what you want.

Going on nuclear alert plays into that.

ROFLMAO

[yesitsme]

You keep making it about him. It is not about just him. It is the praise from the right that is used against "US" for propaganda purpose. Anyone that supports/praises this murdering dictator is part of the problem, not the solution!

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

We kept on hearing from you and from the left that Trump is a antisemit, unstable and will start ww3 etc, but in reality the world was much more stable then today and the jews/Israelis were much more comfortable with trump then the current administration, so you're left with knit picking quotes that left impressions

[m65]

This is from the intelligence community that got this one 100% right. 

where did u get access to these "intelligence reports"? do u have special access that we dont know about?
unless that is the case, u got ur info either from the news or in the mikva (the latter being much more reliable)
(since u havent updated ur username to rabbi valentine, ill have to assume the former)
either way so far theyve been 100% wrong in predicting the timing of the war, and about everything else theyve been reporting since time has begun, so therefore if i was putins doctor i wouldnt start prescribing him pills based on these reports

[yungermanchik]

(since u havent updated ur username to Avraham Ben Avraham, ill have to assume the former)

FTFY

[aygart]

Weird how such a large proton of this thread is about Trump. At this point, who cares about the grumpy old man in Mar a Largo?

[CountValentine]

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

We kept on hearing from you and from the left that Trump is a antisemit, unstable and will start ww3 etc, but in reality the world was much more stable then today and the jews/Israelis were much more comfortable with trump then the current administration, so you're left with knit picking quotes that left impressions

You just don't get it. You want to attack Bidens policies, that is fair gain. You don't praise our enemies.
Again, most of the propaganda Russian is using comes from the powerful right wing talking heads. You and others want to pretend this is just about bashing him. This is about supporting our great country 100%!!!

[CountValentine]

either way so far theyve been 100% wrong in predicting the timing of the war, and about everything else theyve been reporting since time has begun,

Someone has their head buried in the sand or is listening to Tucker, the Putin mouthpiece.

[m65]

Then our military support and aid should reflect that.

it should, and it does, reflect only what the us govt thinks is best for itself
and israeli policy should reflect what the israeli govt thinks is best for itself

make no mistakes, us support comes not out of a personal love affair btwn americans and israelis, but out of a mixture of US interests (global stability, geopolitical plans, voter and party donor currying). as long as these interests will exist, support will continue flowing. as soon as they stop, no amount of love will keep it alive.

[dovy2]

I thought this thread was taken out of politics thread cuz we'll leave the politics out. Maybe someone can start a new thread there, and let's keep this one for news updates

[m65]

Someone has their head buried in the sand or is listen to Tucker, the Putin mouthpiece.

i thought u got this from:

Watching a ton of news from the right and left this weekend

btw i havent seen tucker since long before this situation started escalating

[aygart]

I thought this thread was taken out of politics thread cuz we'll leave the politics out. Maybe someone can start a new thread there, and let's keep this one for news updates

+1000000

[Euclid]

I thought this thread was taken out of politics thread cuz we'll leave the politics out. Maybe someone can start a new thread there, and let's keep this one for news updates

Yes. Thank you. Let's leave [domestic] politics out of this.

[CountValentine]

No need for another thread as I will stay out since I been called out several times for my posts.

Not one person was called out for the numerous posts about where a rabbi was on a certain day at a certain time. I guess those posts are germane to this thread. 

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

[aygart]

bbc.com: Ukraine invasion: Russian planes face near-total airspace ban to west.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60539303

[aygart]

No need for another thread as I will stay out since I been called out several times for my posts.

Not one person was called out for the numerous posts about where a rabbi was on a certain day at a certain time. I guess those posts are germane to this thread. 

That discussion (including some parts of mine) was a small percentage of the number  of posts about Trump and tucker. It has just taken over the whole thread. FTR I think the bigger issue is all of the Trump would have this or that more than calling out current stupidity.

Also, whether or not the Chief Rabbi evacuated is absolutely germane.