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I am a survivor of abuse

I tried to type up a longer, more detailed post but it got too hard. The bottom line is the following

There's no such thing as universal feelings, reactions, desires, needs that all victims share. Each one is an individual who suffered alone and carries the unique scars that stay with them and each one will react to future situations in life in their own way.

Therefore, there is no single response to abuse that will leave all victims feeling safe, secure, validated, supported, closure and everything else all the well meaning people here want to give them.

However, I think there is a single response that would leave all victims feeling further pain and trauma and that is "It can't be."

Rabbi Shimon Russell - How to Safeguard and Protect our Children

https://youtu.be/fefqSvXf0JI


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Author Topic: Chaim Walder dies  (Read 125600 times)

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1280 on: January 16, 2022, 10:52:15 PM »
If that was their intention, that's one thing. But they did not have in mind any of this. The Rambam says they get zero credit due to that. See also Tehilim פו:יד.

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1282 on: January 18, 2022, 11:35:03 PM »
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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1283 on: January 18, 2022, 11:58:05 PM »
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let's see how long it takes for it to get defaced

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1284 on: January 19, 2022, 12:25:02 PM »

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1285 on: January 19, 2022, 12:33:26 PM »
The people taking these photos (& from shiva house) & publicizing it to the world are repulsive creatures, and contrary to what they’re pretending to do they don’t care one bit about the victims. His kids are victims too & could write whatever they want on their father’s matzeiva for all I care.

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1286 on: January 19, 2022, 12:49:01 PM »
The people taking these photos (& from shiva house) & publicizing it to the world are repulsive creatures, and contrary to what they’re pretending to do they don’t care one bit about the victims. His kids are victims too & could write whatever they want on their father’s matzeiva for all I care.

I think a distinction can be made between funeral attendance and a gravestone. People chose to attend the funeral, and the size of the crowd implied that the community thought he deserved that honor, vs. what the family chose to write on his tombstone, which is a different discussion.
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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1287 on: January 19, 2022, 12:55:46 PM »
I think a distinction can be made between funeral attendance and a gravestone. People chose to attend the funeral, and the size of the crowd implied that the community thought he deserved that honor, vs. what the family chose to write on his tombstone, which is a different discussion.
I was referring to photos of people being menachem avel his kids.

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1288 on: January 19, 2022, 01:13:05 PM »
Let the family put what makes them feel good
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1289 on: January 19, 2022, 01:17:19 PM »
I was referring to photos of people being menachem avel his kids.

Yup, an important distinction.

A levaya is about the mes. Shiva is for the family.

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1290 on: January 19, 2022, 01:17:58 PM »
It won’t be the victims who deface his grave, it'll be social justice warriors.

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1291 on: January 19, 2022, 01:20:34 PM »
Yup, an important distinction.

A levaya is about the mes. Shiva is for the family.
Also a lot more info has come to light since his funeral. I believe would his funeral be today, you wouldn’t see that size crowd.

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1292 on: January 19, 2022, 01:23:29 PM »
The people taking these photos (& from shiva house) & publicizing it to the world are repulsive creatures, and contrary to what they’re pretending to do they don’t care one bit about the victims. His kids are victims too & could write whatever they want on their father’s matzeiva for all I care.
Yup they just want to gossip. If they care, they should keep it quiet so the victims wont see it and get hurt.

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1293 on: January 19, 2022, 08:03:24 PM »
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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1294 on: January 19, 2022, 08:09:23 PM »

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1295 on: January 19, 2022, 08:12:33 PM »
Is this real or fake? Can't tell.
Very obviously fake. Last line is the real giveaway.

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1296 on: January 19, 2022, 08:31:03 PM »
Very obviously fake. Last line is the real giveaway.
Can't read it. Res too low.

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1297 on: January 19, 2022, 09:21:59 PM »

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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1298 on: January 20, 2022, 12:57:52 AM »
Can't read it. Res too low.

+1

Except I was able to read the name Berland there as a speaker, which was a giveaway that it's fake.
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Re: Chaim Walder dies
« Reply #1299 on: January 20, 2022, 10:23:57 AM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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