Chaim Walder dies

[Euclid]

Second half of video

[yelped]

Second half of video

Second half is interesting. First is sad.

[yzj]

Lots of book throwing out going on:

Two leading rabbis from the national religious sector met Monday morning in a bid to resolve an ongoing dispute over the handling of the Chaim Walder case.

Rabbi Tzvi Tau, dean of the Har HaMor Yeshiva in Jerusalem, hosted Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, chief rabbi of Tzfat and one of the rabbis who probed allegations of sexual misconduct by the late haredi author and educator Chaim Walder, prior to Walder’s suicide.

Rabbi Eliyahu brought testimony from the investigation he led into claims of sexual assault and adultery leveled against Walder.

The meeting was held after comments made by Rabbi Tau criticizing Rabbi Eliyahu’s handling of the matter were leaked to the press.

In a recording of his comments, Rabbi Tau can be heard questioning the allegations against Walder, and slamming the subsequent shaming campaign prior to Walder’s suicide.

The claims against Walder, originally publicized by Ha’aretz, “are all lies and bluff,” Rabbi Tau said. “It is all built on lies.”

“People live by the radio and the media, and they’ve come to believe it all deeply. It’s faith.”

Rabbi Tau accused Rabbi Eliyahu of “McCarthyism,” saying that he “lost all inhibitions.”

During the meeting, Rabbi Rafi Feuerstein, co-chairman of the Tzohar organization, excoriated Rabbi Tau, according to a report by Galei Tzahal.

Rabbi Feuerstein reportedly announced that following Rabbi Tau’s comments on the Walder case, Rabbi Feuerstein had thrown out all books written by Rabbi Tau which he owned.

“I don’t want them in my house, so I took the books and left them out in the rain. I call on Rabbi Tau to walk back his comments, to support the victims who complained against Chaim Walder, and to give them legitimacy. The time has come to draw a red line.”

[Euclid]

https://youtu.be/_0yLQ66D7Q0


They're trying to launch a campaign to widely disseminate the "Let's stay safe" book for free.
https://artscroll.com/Books/9781422611104.html

[PlatinumGuy]

Lots of book throwing out going on:

Two leading rabbis from the national religious sector met Monday morning in a bid to resolve an ongoing dispute over the handling of the Chaim Walder case.

Rabbi Tzvi Tau, dean of the Har HaMor Yeshiva in Jerusalem, hosted Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, chief rabbi of Tzfat and one of the rabbis who probed allegations of sexual misconduct by the late haredi author and educator Chaim Walder, prior to Walder’s suicide.

Rabbi Eliyahu brought testimony from the investigation he led into claims of sexual assault and adultery leveled against Walder.

The meeting was held after comments made by Rabbi Tau criticizing Rabbi Eliyahu’s handling of the matter were leaked to the press.

In a recording of his comments, Rabbi Tau can be heard questioning the allegations against Walder, and slamming the subsequent shaming campaign prior to Walder’s suicide.

The claims against Walder, originally publicized by Ha’aretz, “are all lies and bluff,” Rabbi Tau said. “It is all built on lies.”

“People live by the radio and the media, and they’ve come to believe it all deeply. It’s faith.”

Rabbi Tau accused Rabbi Eliyahu of “McCarthyism,” saying that he “lost all inhibitions.”

During the meeting, Rabbi Rafi Feuerstein, co-chairman of the Tzohar organization, excoriated Rabbi Tau, according to a report by Galei Tzahal.

Rabbi Feuerstein reportedly announced that following Rabbi Tau’s comments on the Walder case, Rabbi Feuerstein had thrown out all books written by Rabbi Tau which he owned.

“I don’t want them in my house, so I took the books and left them out in the rain. I call on Rabbi Tau to walk back his comments, to support the victims who complained against Chaim Walder, and to give them legitimacy. The time has come to draw a red line.”

https://twitter.com/shlomopyuter/status/1477940431514132482

[ExGingi]

https://youtu.be/_0yLQ66D7Q0


They're trying to launch a campaign to widely disseminate the "Let's stay safe" book for free.
https://artscroll.com/Books/9781422611104.html

#IStandWithAbuseSurvivors

"It's not OK to praise an abuser"

We will know that this message resonates when the Israeli Yated gets massive subscription cancellations, and bans from prominent leaders!

[S209]

https://youtu.be/_0yLQ66D7Q0

DW told me she saw Rabbi Horowitz interviewing a woman Esti Hamilton yesterday who says she spoke with the head of an Israeli child advocacy organization, Magen LaKehilot, that day. The woman informed her that she knew two of CW’s victims personally, and after his suicide another four came forward for help from the organization. One of the victims they were working with attempted suicide yesterday and they managed to save her life. R”l.

[Dan]

DW told me she saw Rabbi Horowitz interviewing a woman Esti Hamilton yesterday who says she spoke with the head of an Israeli child advocacy organization, Magen LaKehilot, that day. The woman informed her that she knew two of CW’s victims personally, and after his suicide another four came forward for help from the organization. One of the victims they were working with attempted suicide yesterday and they managed to save her life. R”l.

Any link?

[dasmo801]

Any link?

https://t.co/mIvXnFvmNN

This is the link that he posted for his discussion with Esti Hamilton.
(I can't open it so I don't know if its the same one referenced above).

[S209]

Any link?

https://youtu.be/_0yLQ66D7Q0

It should be another video on his YouTube channel linked here from yesterday, interview with Rebbetzin Esti Hamilton, I believe it’s right after the 19 minute mark.

[YossieW]

Any link?

This is the Youtube version
if you want a real measured approach and someone who is very well versed in this subject listen to his various videos on this

[YitzyS]

Rav Zev Leff

https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?a=173515

[S209]

Rav Zev Leff

https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?a=173515

I don’t know how much weight should be given to this perspective considering he openly admits he doesn’t even know what the allegations are, but a wise outlook on abuse in general I’m sure.

[PlatinumGuy]

Any link?

For what it's worth, this guy reported the attempted suicide and then retracted it as it seems to stimulate further self hurt


https://twitter.com/rafiperlshtein/status/1477730235076468745

[YossieW]

This is the Youtube version
if you want a real measured approach and someone who is very well versed in this subject listen to his various videos on this

[AsherO]

I was going to post this here as well, the most emotionally sensitive and intelligent discussion on the topic.

[WonderingYid]

https://youtu.be/_0yLQ66D7Q0


They're trying to launch a campaign to widely disseminate the "Let's stay safe" book for free.
https://artscroll.com/Books/9781422611104.html

People should have the brains to buy it...

[randomjay]

Watching Rabbi Horowitz and how he speaks to so many survivors on a regular basis, etc. and this mind boggling question comes to mind.

WHY DOESN'T HE RELEASE A LIST OF ALL THESE ABUSERS??

Why is it that only after someone else breaks a story he jumps on the story with overwhelming expertise? Can you imagine how many lives he can save by releasing a list of THE abusers so we all know who they are, so we can make sure our children stay away from them?

[shwarmabob]

Watching Rabbi Horowitz and how he speaks to so many survivors on a regular basis, etc. and this mind boggling question comes to mind.

WHY DOESN'T HE RELEASE A LIST OF ALL THESE ABUSERS??

Why is it that only after someone else breaks a story he jumps on the story with overwhelming expertise? Can you imagine how many lives he can save by releasing a list of THE abusers so we all know who they are, so we can make sure our children stay away from them?

He doesn't release the list because when he does he gets sued. Even when he warned about a guy who was already a known/registered offender Rabbi Horowitz got sued.
The only way to deal with this appears to be law enforcement and the courts. Victims should be helped, abusers should be reported.
Let's hope that the innocent will be found innocent and only the guilty gets punished.

[Yehuda57]

Many survivors do not say who it was and /or don't want it publicized, because how can you publicize without evidence, which means they need to testify, which they aren't willing /able to do.