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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2021, 10:12:57 AM »
Say it better: a lie has no legs to stand on.
That's more accurate, but doesn't work with the joke.

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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2021, 10:16:42 AM »
That's more accurate, but doesn't work with the joke.
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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2021, 05:50:51 PM »
I see in BP weekly multiple street signs go up explaining different reasons why not to take the vaccine.
Some quote Rabbonim some quote doctors etc
They also publish in the shul pamphlets pages against the vaccine.

Was wondering who backs these initiatives they definitely cost quite a bit of money? Are they getting money from the general anti-vax community or there are frum ppl donating to this course?

Also was wondering why hasn't government invested in the community at the same level to push pro vaccine literature?
Open the Hamodia, Ami, Yated etc and you'll see a bunch of pro vaccine ads from NYC.

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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2021, 06:51:00 PM »
Open the Hamodia, Ami, Yated etc and you'll see a bunch of pro vaccine ads from NYC.

Those ads are worth nothing for the community
They're written with a goyishe kup

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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2021, 06:54:16 PM »
Those ads are worth nothing for the community
They're written with a goyishe kup

I find the greatest discrepancy is the fear level, for some reason the communities who fear the virus less have lower vax rates
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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2021, 07:01:38 PM »
I find the greatest discrepancy is the fear level, for some reason the communities who fear the virus less have lower vax rates

Per Dr. Grande

Anti vaxers cant be convinced
Vaccination  hesitancy can only be overcome with creating fear

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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2021, 07:14:52 PM »
Those ads are worth nothing for the community
They're written with a goyishe kup

And with a Yiddish so terrible even @CountValentine would cringe.
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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2021, 07:30:23 PM »
Those ads are worth nothing for the community
They're written with a goyishe kup

Youíre asking why the government doesnít publish pro-vax ads but also say community magazine articles are too goyishe kup (whatever that means). You expect the government to write with a Yiddishe kup?
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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2021, 07:31:43 PM »
And with a Yiddish so terrible even @CountValentine would cringe.

I doubt heíd cringe at anything pro-vax, even if it was written in Pig-Latin
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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2021, 07:36:21 PM »
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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2021, 08:12:36 PM »
And with a Yiddish so terrible even @CountValentine would cringe.

Sort of like the billboard in Lakewood from Amerigroup in ivrit. Something about my creations coming first or something like that.
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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2021, 09:19:10 PM »
When I listen to Yankee games I hear ads featuring black doctors saying "we know you don't trust public health because they don't treat people of color properly. etc etc, but trust us, we're black, we're doctors, the vaccine is safe etc." Where is that campaign for frum people? Where are the NYS-funded WhatsApp voice notes from doctors and rabonim saying "yeah, we know Cuomo screwed up. We know their Covid rules were unfair. But the vaccine is safe, it's effective, we took it, we're giving it to our children, and we encourage you to get vaccinated"?


When Crystal Hudson was running for election we had Mendy Pellin making mikvah towel jokes. It wouldn't take that much to hire frum agencies to produce compelling ads.

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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2021, 10:37:20 PM »
Youíre asking why the government doesnít publish pro-vax ads but also say community magazine articles are too goyishe kup (whatever that means). You expect the government to write with a Yiddishe kup?
When Crystal Hudson was running for election we had Mendy Pellin making mikvah towel jokes. It wouldn't take that much to hire frum agencies to produce compelling ads.

Exactly.

I promise you if they would hire for the right price any proper orthodox Jewish advisory group we would have had pictures and signatures of every second rabbi and Rov getting the vaccine

They pulled that part off so nice in Israel.

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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2021, 10:42:56 PM »
Exactly.

I promise you if they would hire for the right price any proper orthodox Jewish advisory group we would have had pictures and signatures of every second rabbi and Rov getting the vaccine

They pulled that part off so nice in Israel.

That ship has long sailed. You can ask why they didnít do it, but I doubt any amount of money spent on advertising would work. Though $1,000 cash would have people lined up around the block with rolled up sleeves, winter be d*mned
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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2021, 10:43:49 PM »
By now the anti-vaxxers have done so much more that it would be so hard to undo their work

I'm saying that even on Rabbonim.

Even the moetzs of agudah or Lakewood rosh yeshivas haven't taken a public stand

Contrary to Israel R Chaim, R Gershom, Grerer Rabbi Vishnitz, Belz and many more publicly endorsed the vaccine.
They even came down to these yeshivas and vaccinated all the bucharm.

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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2021, 10:46:55 PM »
That ship has long sailed. You can ask why they didnít do it, but I doubt any amount of money spent on advertising would work. Though $1,000 cash would have people lined up around the block with rolled up sleeves, winter be d*mned

Dan had suggested somewhere that if the government would tie tax child credit to vaccination people would line up.

What came to my mind when I read it. I don't think that would work in the from community. People just don't understand the significance of forging a vaccination card.

I have a family relative that was in charge of collecting vacation cards in a large school. She said from her observance most cards handed in are not real

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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2021, 10:52:38 PM »
Dan had suggested somewhere that if the government would tie tax child credit to vaccination people would line up.

What came to my mind when I read it. I don't think that would work in the from community. People just don't understand the significance of forging a vaccination card.

I have a family relative that was in charge of collecting vacation cards in a large school. She said from her observance most cards handed in are not real

I donít see how the two are related. When it comes to green cold hard cash, all the idiots (thatís a reference to you saying ďpeople just donít understandĒ, not a judgement of anyone) suddenly wisen up.
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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2021, 10:57:18 PM »
People just don't understand the significance of the vaccines
FTFY.

Including myself BTW
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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2021, 11:05:43 PM »
FTFY.

Including myself BTW

Not understanding significance of vaccination is what is being discussed here that the government failed in doing outreach.

Not understanding the significance of vaccinations and therefore justifying forging vaccine cards is taking it to a different level.

This is a common phenomena in the community that I don't understand why the government is dictating this therefore it is okay to forge the document.

Don't people understand what the consequences can be?

How about the doctor that many schools are referring people too that's for.... Can get you a real.....

Isn't that crazy Don't they understand the consequences

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Re: Frum anti-vax campaigns funding source
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2021, 11:15:08 PM »
 They're two separate issues and education can reduce crime overall, but in this case the government simply needs to invest in making people want to get vaccinated
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