Poll

One year in, what do you think actually happened that day?

A. False-flag operation by the "deep state" to take down Trump
2 (10%)
B. Maybe not a coordinated false-flag, but most of the agitators seem to be feds
3 (15%)
C. Preplanned insurrection by right-wing extremists
2 (10%)
D. Spontaneus riot motivated by Trump's call for violence
5 (25%)
E. Both C&D
6 (30%)
F. An attempt to overturn the fair and legal election of a US President
2 (10%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: January 13, 2022, 12:48:51 AM

Author Topic: 1/6 Fedsurrection?  (Read 29199 times)

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #280 on: July 04, 2022, 10:42:33 PM »
Right, because if I'm the secret service and I know there are multiple armed people outside the perimeter, I'm totes gonna be chill that the mags are sufficient to eliminate the risk of armed people in the perimeter.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's not likely.
I don't get why you think this is different from any of the large arenas where Trump holds a rally.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #281 on: July 04, 2022, 11:04:04 PM »
The Ellipse is 52 acres, same size as Brooklyn Botanic Garden.  Trump wants to speak in the BBG, so secret service fences it off and install mags so no guns can enter.  And if police then report someone carrying a gun on Eastern Pkwy? Waddya gonna do?  Fence off the whole borough?

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #282 on: July 05, 2022, 12:26:47 AM »
If there were thousands of people descending on Brooklyn for the same purpose, and some of those people were seen armed on Eastern Parkway, yes, I would expect a speech in the Botanical Gardens to get canceled.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #283 on: July 05, 2022, 12:53:16 AM »
If there were thousands of people descending on Brooklyn for the same purpose, and some of those people were seen armed on Eastern Parkway, yes, I would expect a speech in the Botanical Gardens to get canceled.
You have stricter standards than the secret service. 

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #284 on: July 05, 2022, 01:37:45 AM »
You have stricter standards than the secret service.

Any evidence of that outside of 1/6?

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #285 on: July 05, 2022, 01:52:46 AM »
Any evidence of that outside of 1/6?
No, just off the top of my head.
Few years ago I was sitting in the NYU medical school library (Chief Looker Upper, even then) and librarian comes over and says get out, secret service don't want you here.  They were securing the area for the President who was going to speak in a lecture hall, maybe on the floor above.  I had to sit in the cafeteria for an hour, just down the hallway. I wasn't searched, the building was still in general use. They were more focused on looking for bombs than weapons.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #286 on: July 05, 2022, 08:01:45 AM »
No, just off the top of my head.
Few years ago I was sitting in the NYU medical school library (Chief Looker Upper, even then) and librarian comes over and says get out, secret service don't want you here.  They were securing the area for the President who was going to speak in a lecture hall, maybe on the floor above.  I had to sit in the cafeteria for an hour, just down the hallway. I wasn't searched, the building was still in general use. They were more focused on looking for bombs than weapons.

Cool story. I'm also going off the top of my head, I doubt the SS would post a list of rules and guidelines for an assassin to use  :)

I'm just wondering if anyone can think of a time where you had a massive mob descend on a city, some of whom were visibly armed, and the president was allowed to address a portion of them.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #287 on: July 05, 2022, 08:26:18 AM »
No, just off the top of my head.
Few years ago I was sitting in the NYU medical school library (Chief Looker Upper, even then) and librarian comes over and says get out, secret service don't want you here.  They were securing the area for the President who was going to speak in a lecture hall, maybe on the floor above.  I had to sit in the cafeteria for an hour, just down the hallway. I wasn't searched, the building was still in general use. They were more focused on looking for bombs than weapons.
Doesn't sound like a gun would have done much good through the floor while people on treetops with assault rifles in an outdoor setting  would.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #288 on: July 11, 2022, 05:21:33 PM »
If and when the Republicans take control of the house, can they recall the contempt of congress charge against Steve Bannon?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #289 on: October 13, 2022, 01:24:29 PM »
Last of the Jan 6 hearings in the House just started, and should last about 2.5 hours.  I found the earlier ones fascinating, if only to see the representatives in a format unlike the 5-minute speeches where we usually see.

Live now, possible to move the slider back to see the beginning. Any of these should work:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?523473-1/ninth-hearing-capitol-attack

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/10/13/us/jan-6-hearing-trump

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #291 on: November 21, 2022, 03:10:53 PM »
:(

https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1594761304610598912

https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1594762366209904640
Unfortunately not uncommon a friend of mine told me his friend from camp is sitting in a dc prison on Jan 6 charges

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #292 on: November 21, 2022, 03:13:00 PM »
Unfortunately not uncommon a friend of mine told me his friend from camp is sitting in a dc prison on Jan 6 charges
Sad
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #293 on: November 21, 2022, 03:15:10 PM »
Unfortunately not uncommon a friend of mine told me his friend from camp is sitting in a dc prison on Jan 6 charges
Sad
You know what they say if you can't do the time...
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #294 on: November 21, 2022, 03:15:59 PM »
You know what they say if you can't do the time...
Sad that he did the crime, sad that he has to waste his life serving time.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #295 on: November 21, 2022, 03:19:55 PM »
Sad that he did the crime, sad that he has to waste his life serving time.
Did they gave him time? If not, hopefully they won't.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #296 on: November 21, 2022, 03:51:36 PM »
Sad that he did the crime, sad that he has to waste his life serving time.
https://crownheights.info/crime/798802/breaking-fbi-raid-union-street-home-in-crown-heights/

I was wondering what it was all about

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #297 on: November 21, 2022, 04:34:10 PM »
:(

https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1594761304610598912

https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1594762366209904640

Remember when people were justifying the J6 prosecutions by claiming that only those who were violent were being prosecuted?

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #298 on: November 21, 2022, 05:13:33 PM »
Remember when people were justifying the J6 prosecutions by claiming that only those who were violent were being prosecuted?
Nope, don't remember that. Anyway, no reason to justify any prosecution when they broke the law.
This was a violent mob actions were many were injured and or killed. You can't just ignore that.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #299 on: November 21, 2022, 05:16:27 PM »
if you can't do the time...
ůstick to local crime. :P