Poll

One year in, what do you think actually happened that day?

A. False-flag operation by the "deep state" to take down Trump
2 (10%)
B. Maybe not a coordinated false-flag, but most of the agitators seem to be feds
3 (15%)
C. Preplanned insurrection by right-wing extremists
2 (10%)
D. Spontaneus riot motivated by Trump's call for violence
5 (25%)
E. Both C&D
6 (30%)
F. An attempt to overturn the fair and legal election of a US President
2 (10%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: January 13, 2022, 12:48:51 AM

Author Topic: 1/6 Fedsurrection?  (Read 32532 times)

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1/6 Fedsurrection?
« on: January 06, 2022, 12:48:51 AM »
One year in, what do you think actually happened that day?
« Last Edit: January 06, 2022, 01:29:13 AM by whYME »

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2022, 07:13:13 AM »
Trump's call for violence? I'm going to need a link.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2022, 07:18:03 AM »
One year in, what do you think actually happened that day?

None of the above. A Trump rally, some confused people who ended up in the Capitol and weren’t sure what they were doing there, and a whole lot of hyperbole from the left.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2022, 09:46:18 AM »
Trump's call for violence? I'm going to need a link.
Well you can probably find it the same place you'll find Trump saying some neo-nazi's are good people and all Mexicans are rapists and murderers. Oh and you should also be able to find Schiff's evidence of Trump colluding with Russia to steal the 2016 election there as well.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2022, 09:50:28 AM »
Trump's call for violence? I'm going to need a link.

Blame that on a badly worded poll, not a lack of incitement

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2022, 09:59:33 AM »
One year in, what do you think actually happened that day?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2022, 10:00:59 AM »
Blame that on a badly worded poll
I'm open for suggestions, although I suspect your issue might be with the options provided rather than the wording.

not a lack of incitement
The whole question is incitement of what by who?

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2022, 10:02:15 AM »
Change D to "rhetoric for violence".
Then add G - All three C, D & F.
Then add H - I drink Kool-Aid and voted for A or B.
Then add I - I don't drink Kool-Aid but listen to nutcase Tucker and voted for A or B.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2022, 10:08:52 AM »
Can we have the ability to change our vote?  Apparently I can't English in middle of the night.
44/50, 46/63

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2022, 10:09:32 AM »
Are flags at half mast today

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2022, 10:11:49 AM »
I don't drink Kool-Aid but listen to nutcase Tucker
Wait are you saying these are two different things?

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2022, 10:12:36 AM »
Are flags at half mast today
Don't know as I have no ships by me.  :P
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2022, 10:13:46 AM »
Wait are you saying these are two different things?
Yup, like heroin and cocaine.  :)
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2022, 10:21:22 AM »
Can we have the ability to change our vote?  Apparently I can't English in middle of the night.
I believe you should be able to

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2022, 10:23:55 AM »
I'm open for suggestions, although I suspect your issue might be with the options provided rather than the wording.
The whole question is incitement of what by who?

Incitement doesn't mean you have to suggest a specific behavior and certainly doesn't have to be "a call for violence". Trump could have incited (or provoked, if you prefer) violent actions even if he didn't say anything close to "take up arms and take over Congress". Perhaps:
D. Spontaneous riot motivated by Trump's inciteful rhetoric
(I think you'll agree to the first word change at least  ;) )

I'm not really sure what F is. Wouldn't that be included in most of the others, just a question of if it was planned or spontaneous, etc?

H: A version of @AsherO's option
I: C, D, & H

I would change my vote to I.

Of course how much each of the C, D, and H is up for debate, but there is plenty of evidence for all of those, and you can sprinkle some of B in (I'd remove the word most). If I had to choose the primary option and ignore all the secondary ones, I'd go with H.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2022, 10:32:17 AM »
@Yehuda57 what happened to G?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2022, 10:37:05 AM »
Does anyone not believe this was an attempt to overthrow the election results?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2022, 10:38:35 AM »
Does anyone not believe this was an attempt to overthrow the election results?

You need to get out more  ;)

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2022, 10:39:18 AM »
Does anyone not believe this was an attempt to overthrow the election results?

Perhaps by a few crazies, and  another bunch of curious onlookers. Trump had nothing to do with it other than him liking controversy and being a baby about losing the election.

It wasn’t even remotely Belarus, Myanmar, or Kazakhstan.
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