Poll

One year in, what do you think actually happened that day?

A. False-flag operation by the "deep state" to take down Trump
2 (10%)
B. Maybe not a coordinated false-flag, but most of the agitators seem to be feds
3 (15%)
C. Preplanned insurrection by right-wing extremists
2 (10%)
D. Spontaneus riot motivated by Trump's call for violence
5 (25%)
E. Both C&D
6 (30%)
F. An attempt to overturn the fair and legal election of a US President
2 (10%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: January 13, 2022, 12:48:51 AM

Author Topic: 1/6 Fedsurrection?  (Read 37865 times)

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #80 on: January 06, 2022, 06:51:50 PM »
If were still taking suggestions for additions to the poll -

A massive planning and security failure on the part of those responsible for Capitol security.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #81 on: January 06, 2022, 06:52:57 PM »
where is the evidence?

What about the fact that he is on video encouraging people to go in, yet has not been charged with anything

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #82 on: January 06, 2022, 06:54:51 PM »
If were still taking suggestions for additions to the poll -

A massive planning and security failure on the part of those responsible for Capitol security.
That is after the fact.
If you want to add that then maybe the failure to send help right away after the fact?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #83 on: January 06, 2022, 06:55:16 PM »
What about the fact that he is on video encouraging people to go in, yet has not been charged with anything
Is that a crime? Did he go in?
ETA: Is the theory that he was an FBI agent and that is the reason he was not arrested?
OK I went to the source, Tucker.  :)
I hope you have more than this as he said "peacefully". Would you want Trump arrested for saying go to the capital?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #84 on: January 06, 2022, 07:01:15 PM »
That is after the fact.

Why? Everyone knew there was going to be a massive rally.  The FBI and the DOJ have said that they knew about the Proud Boys Et al.'s planning.

There should have been a massive police/national guard presence to ensure that things didn't get out of hand.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #85 on: January 06, 2022, 07:03:46 PM »
There should have been a massive police/national guard presence to ensure that things didn't get out of hand.
Who was the AG at the time? So, you are saying it was a massive failure for the last admin?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #86 on: January 06, 2022, 07:11:42 PM »
Who was the AG at the time? So, you are saying it was a massive failure for the last admin?

Security of the Capitol is under the Speaker of the House (and the Senate Majority leader I think).

It has been reported that Nancy Pelosi turned down requests to call up the national guard because of optics. Remember that she and her fellow Democrats had spent months trashing Trump for deploying "stormtroopers" to stop BLM riots.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #87 on: January 06, 2022, 07:16:48 PM »
Security of the Capitol is under the Speaker of the House (and the Senate Majority leader I think).

It has been reported that Nancy Pelosi turned down requests to call up the national guard because of optics. Remember that she and her fellow Democrats had spent months trashing Trump for deploying "stormtroopers" to stop BLM riots.
It has also been reported the admin stalled getting them help after the fact.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #88 on: January 06, 2022, 07:18:05 PM »
If were still taking suggestions for additions to the poll -

A massive planning and security failure on the part of those responsible for Capitol security.

Options like this mean you need a multi-select poll.

The security failure isn’t necessarily a planning failure…
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #89 on: January 06, 2022, 07:19:27 PM »
It has also been reported the admin stalled getting them help after the fact.
But officer
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #90 on: January 06, 2022, 07:24:02 PM »
But officer
I am not trying to counter his point but adding to it.

You:John Doe killed Tom Smith.
Me:He also killed Karen.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #91 on: January 06, 2022, 07:29:30 PM »
It has also been reported the admin stalled getting them help after the fact.

And for some reason the J6 committee is investigating this, while explicitly not investigating the security failures.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #92 on: January 06, 2022, 07:32:46 PM »
And for some reason the J6 committee is investigating this, while explicitly not investigating the security failures.
Don't we need the report before saying they are not investigating certain things?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #93 on: January 06, 2022, 08:02:27 PM »
Don't we need the report before saying they are not investigating certain things?
Why would we?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #94 on: January 06, 2022, 09:11:12 PM »
are you talking about tear gas and rubber bullets used on protesters so Trump could have a photo op?
I believe that's been debunked.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #95 on: January 06, 2022, 09:36:32 PM »
Now if the claim is he is an FBI agent/asset then where is the evidence? I am open to anything, but you need to back it up.
Ok, I'll bite.

Before I post actual allegations, I think this is interesting and worth listening to. This was made shortly after the events, there aren't actually allegations here yet, only talking about false flags in general and reasons to suspect one here. (1. I'm not saying every word he says is truth, but I found it interesting. 2. Let's try to focus on the message not the messenger)
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #97 on: January 06, 2022, 10:04:34 PM »
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #98 on: January 06, 2022, 10:13:54 PM »
some confused people who ended up in the Capitol and weren’t sure what they were doing there
How did they end up in the Capitol? who facilitated that?

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #99 on: January 06, 2022, 10:15:54 PM »
Ok, I'll bite.

Before I post actual allegations, I think this is interesting and worth listening to. This was made shortly after the events, there aren't actually allegations here yet, only talking about false flags in general and reasons to suspect one here. (1. I'm not saying every word he says is truth, but I found it interesting. 2. Let's try to focus on the message not the messenger)
https://vivabarneslaw.locals.com/post/349421/hush-hush-episode-1
Thanks for wasting my time.  >:(
Now you have any evidence and please don't post Tuckers BS.
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