Poll

One year in, what do you think actually happened that day?

A. False-flag operation by the "deep state" to take down Trump
2 (10%)
B. Maybe not a coordinated false-flag, but most of the agitators seem to be feds
3 (15%)
C. Preplanned insurrection by right-wing extremists
2 (10%)
D. Spontaneus riot motivated by Trump's call for violence
5 (25%)
E. Both C&D
6 (30%)
F. An attempt to overturn the fair and legal election of a US President
2 (10%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: January 13, 2022, 12:48:51 AM

Author Topic: 1/6 Fedsurrection?  (Read 32420 times)

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #320 on: March 08, 2023, 08:10:24 PM »
Maybe they are going by the definition?
Insurrection: an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

2020 was a year of riots and protests, with many perpetrating acts against law enforcement, outright attacking them, and revolting against their civil authority. (Remember the autonomous zones?) Jan 6 was one of the more mild protests in the 12 month period it was in. Shockingly, there were more prosecutions and imprisonments from the Jan 6 protests than the other violent mobs. (In comparison, for example, the city of Portland apologized to the rioters when they wanted to dismantle their "secessionist" zone.) Likewise, the charges were mostly dropped from the Trump inauguration rioters, who by your definition would also be deemed insurrectionists. Why is that? The answer can't be to shoot anyone that wants to look at the footage of the event in search of clarity.



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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #321 on: March 08, 2023, 08:27:57 PM »
Being imprisoned shows something is real? You serious?
I guess 300+ were all wrongly convicted. ROFLMAO!!!
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #322 on: March 08, 2023, 08:37:40 PM »
I guess 300+ were all wrongly convicted. ROFLMAO!!!

Right or wrong is relative (although anger at footage being released is not a good look). Almost anyone can be convicted of a crime if there's sufficient prosecutorial motivation. Is it surprising to you that the vast majority of violent protestors in 2020 were not charged, and the protestors against the Trump inauguration were let go, and these guys weren't? It's impossible that there was any sort of political beliefs influencing any conduct in that area, no?

https://www.epsilontheory.com/gell-mann-amnesia/

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #323 on: March 08, 2023, 08:39:21 PM »
Is it surprising to you that the vast majority of violent protestors in 2020 were not charged, and the protestors against the Trump inauguration were let go, and these guys weren't?
...but officer!!!
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #324 on: March 08, 2023, 08:39:46 PM »

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #325 on: March 08, 2023, 08:43:19 PM »
The idiot Tucker is trying to rewrite history. He is being called out by all sides.
If you are brain dead, I can see someone believing this or just being MAGA.  :)
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #326 on: March 09, 2023, 03:43:49 AM »
It shows it was real and not this false flag narrative that is being peddled.

Many were injured and or killed. Wake up and smell the coffee.
Killed? You mean Ashley Babbet? Shot for climbing into a window? (Unarmed, hadn't attacked the officer)

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #327 on: March 09, 2023, 08:13:50 AM »
rewrite history.

If releasing videos of what happened is rewriting history, then the people who wrote the first version lied.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #328 on: March 09, 2023, 08:21:38 AM »
If releasing videos of what happened is rewriting history,
You are so far gone there is no help for you. I made no such statement.

It is sad when individuals pretend they care about the police who serve and protect us then look the other way when 100+ are either injured, die or commit suicide as a result of this insurrection.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #329 on: March 09, 2023, 09:36:12 AM »
I drove 75 in a 65. Am I am inssurectionist?

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #330 on: March 09, 2023, 09:48:20 AM »
Am I am inssurectionist?
You are a bird with your head buried in the sand. You can't face facts because of your politics.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #331 on: March 09, 2023, 10:10:17 AM »
You are a bird with your head buried in the sand. You can't face facts because of your politics.
The way you attack anyone who disagrees with you is embarrassing

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #332 on: March 09, 2023, 10:16:34 AM »
The way you attack anyone who disagrees with you is embarrassing
Not disagreeing with me. Disagreeing with facts.
What term you want to use to describe what happened on Jan 6?
It is embarrassing when Tucker takes his viewers for idiots and fools, and they don't even realize it. This is how very bad things start to happen. Just look at history.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #333 on: March 09, 2023, 01:36:38 PM »
read this https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/lynching-the-deplorables?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=auto_share&r=1afom
Not disagreeing with me. Disagreeing with facts.
What term you want to use to describe what happened on Jan 6?
It is embarrassing when Tucker takes his viewers for idiots and fools, and they don't even realize it. This is how very bad things start to happen. Just look at history.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #334 on: March 09, 2023, 02:05:42 PM »
read this https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/lynching-the-deplorables?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=auto_share&r=1afom
"The cheerleading, or at best indifference, by Democratic Party supporters and much of the left to these show trials will come back to haunt them. We are exacerbating the growing tribalism and political antagonisms that will increasingly express themselves through violence. We are complicit, once again, of using the courts to carry out vendettas. We are corroding democratic institutions. We are hardening the ideology and rage of the far-right. We are turning those being hounded to prison into political prisoners and martyrs. We are moving ever closer towards tyranny."

So, what should be the punishment for the mob that stormed the capital?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #335 on: March 09, 2023, 02:16:35 PM »
"The cheerleading, or at best indifference, by Democratic Party supporters and much of the left to these show trials will come back to haunt them. We are exacerbating the growing tribalism and political antagonisms that will increasingly express themselves through violence. We are complicit, once again, of using the courts to carry out vendettas. We are corroding democratic institutions. We are hardening the ideology and rage of the far-right. We are turning those being hounded to prison into political prisoners and martyrs. We are moving ever closer towards tyranny."

So, what should be the punishment for the mob that stormed the capital?
The ones who trespassed or walked in? Who prosecutors want to throw in jail for walking into a building? Not much.
Yet you have people being jailed for months for unlawful (Not violent unlawful, just unlawful) entry. The ones who attacked cops? Throw the book at 'em

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #336 on: March 09, 2023, 02:20:16 PM »
Take, for example, Karl Dresch, who was jailed for 6 months until pleading guilty for a misdemeanor.
Or the book thrown at Timothy Louis Hale-Cusanelli, who got 48 months for this string of charges at trial, which doesn't appear to include any violent acts:
Civil Disorder and Aiding and Abetting; Obstruction of an Official Proceeding and Aiding and Abetting; Entering ... Restricted Building or Grounds; Disorderly ... Restricted Building or Grounds; Impeding Ingress and Egress in a Restricted Building or Grounds; Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Parading ... in a Capitol Building
Kevin Seefried (3 Years) Obstruction of an Official Proceeding; Entering ... Restricted Building or Grounds; Disorderly ... Restricted Building or Grounds; Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Parading ... in a Capitol Building
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #337 on: March 09, 2023, 02:28:28 PM »
The ones who trespassed or walked in?
The mob that stormed the capital and injured so many police officers.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #338 on: March 09, 2023, 02:31:07 PM »
The mob that stormed the capital and injured so many police officers.
Keep ignoring the second half. Check out the examples I brought of people receiving heavy sentences for non-violent offenses.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #339 on: March 09, 2023, 02:36:40 PM »
Keep ignoring the second half. Check out the examples I brought of people receiving heavy sentences for non-violent offenses.
It happened. I am not ignoring any of it. Some people got caught up in the moment. They were stupid for doing it and now are paying a high price for it.

That has nothing to do with the mob that stormed to capital, injured so many, resulted in one person getting killed, and others dying as a result of their actions. 
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