Author Topic: Is It Ethical? (Read 562198 times)

aygart · « **Reply #1220 on:** March 06, 2014, 11:36:59 PM »

Quote from: churnbabychurn on March 06, 2014, 11:36:18 PM

Imho the best way to deal with bids is to tell them both that there is another bidder and not tell them the amount.
Whoever come in lower is the winner. Its also 100% ethical

aka blind auction

dans fan · « **Reply #1221 on:** March 07, 2014, 02:41:04 PM »

Quote from: Aaaron on March 06, 2014, 07:25:15 PM

That's why I ask. My moral compass doesn't always point north.

good to see some honesty. i would suggest you learn some morality from the ppl you despise
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36324.60

Aaaron · « **Reply #1222 on:** March 07, 2014, 04:12:00 PM »

Quote from: dans fan on March 07, 2014, 02:41:04 PM

good to see some honesty. i would suggest you learn some morality from the ppl you despise
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36324.60

Not sure what you mean or where I said I despise anyone. Seems like I offended you a few months ago in that thread and I'm sorry for that.

To update, I didn't say anything to the new electrician; I figured I'll see where the chips fall.

dans fan · « **Reply #1223 on:** March 12, 2014, 01:01:58 AM »

Quote from: Aaaron on March 07, 2014, 04:12:00 PM

Not sure what you mean or where I said I despise anyone.

reread what you wrote its fair to assume you feel that way olso. and as i explained there its not about being offended its a protest on the sonai torah, (inyanai deyoma) as far as what i think of you this is nothing new someone who can talk that way about the hashems finest, its not just your moral compass that doesn't always point north.
back on topic if you care about my opinion: you question has two parts stealing and morality. if the person believes you and does the work at a cheaper rate only because of what you told him its genavas daas and mateh yisroel/akum. but if its a guy who knows that you may be stretching the truth like a typical joe the plumber gives a estimate and you tell him someone else will do it at %25 less he knows that you dont want the other guy or you wouldnt be waisting your time haggling and he know that the two estimates may not be apples to apples. then it can be mutter because its understood its just a way of talking, i would line up the morality with the halacha

Aaaron · « **Reply #1224 on:** March 12, 2014, 02:06:22 PM »

Quote from: dans fan on March 12, 2014, 01:01:58 AM

reread what you wrote its fair to assume you feel that way olso. and as i explained there its not about being offended its a protest on the sonai torah, (inyanai deyoma) as far as what i think of you this is nothing new someone who can talk that way about the hashems finest, its not just your moral compass that doesn't always point north.
back on topic if you care about my opinion: you question has two parts stealing and morality. if the person believes you and does the work at a cheaper rate only because of what you told him its genavas daas and mateh yisroel/akum. but if its a guy who knows that you may be stretching the truth like a typical joe the plumber gives a estimate and you tell him someone else will do it at %25 less he knows that you dont want the other guy or you wouldnt be waisting your time haggling and he know that the two estimates may not be apples to apples. then it can be mutter because its understood its just a way of talking, i would line up the morality with the halacha

I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say. Despite your assumption, I don't despise anybody. I obviously don't necessarily respect the same people you do.

Lastly, as I mentioned above, I didn't say anything to the electrician when they came to give me an estimate.

dealfinder85 · « **Reply #1225 on:** March 18, 2014, 09:24:11 AM »

PGGM?
anyone else have a problem with it?

CountValentine · « **Reply #1226 on:** March 18, 2014, 09:27:21 AM »

I can see this crossing the line for some/many. I did use it.

good sam · « **Reply #1227 on:** March 18, 2014, 11:29:37 AM »

Personally, I have a problem with any fake spending. So VR or GC is fine, but buying and returning is not, so that would include PGGM. I do GC method.

ckmk47 · « **Reply #1228 on:** March 18, 2014, 11:38:42 AM »

Quote from: dealfinder85 on March 18, 2014, 09:24:11 AM

PGGM?
anyone else have a problem with it?

I didn't like it either. I bought gift cards. The fact that Amex gave me a credit, although their T & C don't allow GCs, is their problem/ business.

good sam · « **Reply #1229 on:** March 18, 2014, 11:40:30 AM »

+1 AA's policy of not transferring gc's doesn't bother me either.

ckmk47 · « **Reply #1230 on:** March 18, 2014, 12:11:52 PM »

Quote from: good sam on March 18, 2014, 11:40:30 AM

+1 AA's policy of not transferring gc's doesn't bother me either.

CountValentine · « **Reply #1231 on:** March 18, 2014, 02:18:38 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on March 18, 2014, 09:27:21 AM

I can see this crossing the line for some/many. I did use it.

Quote from: good sam on March 18, 2014, 11:29:37 AM

Personally, I have a problem with any fake spending. So VR or GC is fine, but buying and returning is not, so that would include PGGM. I do GC method.

Quote from: ckmk47 on March 18, 2014, 11:38:42 AM