Is It Ethical?

[YankyDoodle]

Prager is awesome! Great video.

[aygart]

Ayn Rand had a whole book, The Virtue of Selfishness, discussing rational reasons for most of what he discusses.

[avadah]

Is skipping the survey in todays DDMS post about RewardsGold free subscriptions ethical. Aren't they are giving it as a reward for completing the survey?

[lunatic]

Is skipping the survey in todays DDMS post about RewardsGold free subscriptions ethical. Aren't they are giving it as a reward for completing the survey?

Or answering nonsense... Like I did

[Super Speed]

Is it ethical to walk into a store, see that it's packed and walk out and call in the order?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Yes.

[Myccrabbi]

Is it ethical to walk into a store, see that it's packed and walk out and call in the order?

Is it ethical to have a system in your store that costumers who call in the order get their stuff faster then the ones who wait inside?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Yes.

[ckmk47]

Is it ethical to have a system in your store that costumers who call in the order get their stuff faster then the ones who wait inside?

no.
I was at a hotel concierge and when a he got a call, I thought, here I wait.
He told them he was busy with someone else and would call them back! 
That's the way to work the phones when you've got customers in front of you!

[dans fan]

no.
I was at a hotel concierge and when a he got a call, I thought, here I wait.
He told them he was busy with someone else and would call them back! 
That's the way to work the phones when you've got customers in front of you!

the question is if its ethical, not how you like it to work if your the guy waiting on line. i do agree its unethical because the store does it not to loose call in customers, if they would know that you left they would not serve you first

[etech0]

If someone tells you a secret and makes you promise not to tell anyone... and then someone else tells you the same "piece of info" with no such provisions at all... Can you repeat it?

What do you guys think?

[george]

If someone tells you a secret and makes you promise not to tell anyone... and then someone else tells you the same "piece of info" with no such provisions at all... Can you repeat it?

What do you guys think?

I'd say it depends whether the first secret-teller was aware that the second secret-teller knows the secret or not. If #1 knows that #2 knows, then the promise made to #1 is despite #2's knowledge and therefore the promise should be upheld. If, however, #1 did not realize that #2 knew, then it may be plausible to argue that the fact that #2 knows makes the promise to #1 null, because it was on false pretenses.

[Achas Veachas]

I'd say it depends whether the first secret-teller was aware that the second secret-teller knows the secret or not. If #1 knows that #2 knows, then the promise made to #1 is despite #2's knowledge and therefore the promise should be upheld. If, however, #1 did not realize that #2 knew, then it may be plausible to argue that the fact that #2 knows makes the promise to #1 null, because it was on false pretenses.

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I think it can be told to others regardless.

[etech0]

I'd say it depends whether the first secret-teller was aware that the second secret-teller knows the secret or not. If #1 knows that #2 knows, then the promise made to #1 is despite #2's knowledge and therefore the promise should be upheld. If, however, #1 did not realize that #2 knew, then it may be plausible to argue that the fact that #2 knows makes the promise to #1 null, because it was on false pretenses.

Assuming that you are right, how do you plan on knowing whether #1 knows that #2 knows?

Anyways, I think it would make more of a difference if #1 knew that #2 knows and is telling people.

But who says the secret belongs to #1? Let's say it's something that #1 and #2 figured out each on their own. Why does #1 own the info any more than #2?

[george]

-1
I think it can be told to others regardless.

-1
If your mother tells you that she is pregnant and makes you promise not to tell anyone and then your father tells you that your mother is pregnant without asking for any promises, you think it'd be ok to break the promise you made to your mother?

[lubaby]

-1
If your mother tells you that she is pregnant and makes you promise not to tell anyone and then your father tells you that your mother is pregnant without asking for any promises, you think it'd be ok to break the promise you made to your mother?

In this scenario, person #1 and person #2 are considered the same person.

[george]

Assuming that you are right, how do you plan on knowing whether #1 knows that #2 knows?

Anyways, I think it would make more of a difference if #1 knew that #2 knows and is telling people.

But who says the secret belongs to #1? Let's say it's something that #1 and #2 figured out each on their own. Why does #1 own the info any more than #2?

All these claims are valid but they only question why you would agree to make the promise. But once you do promise not to tell, what gives you the right to break that promise? Only a "false pretenses" or similar type of claim can justify it.

[george]

In this scenario, person #1 and person #2 are considered the same person.

Ok, so switch the word father to the word sister.

[Achas Veachas]

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If your mother tells you that she is pregnant and makes you promise not to tell anyone and then your father tells you that your mother is pregnant without asking for any promises, you think it'd be ok to break the promise you made to your mother?

I obviously don't know the case OP was talking about but I was assuming the 2 people had no connection to each other and both got knowledge of the secret independently...

All these claims are valid but they only question why you would agree to make the promise. But once you do promise not to tell, what gives you the right to break that promise? Only a "false pretenses" or similar type of claim can justify it.

I promised not to tell person #1's secret I never promised not to tell person #2's secret...

[lubaby]

Ok, so switch the word father to the word sister.

My point was when it comes to family "secrets", things are different than when dealing with strangers/friends.