Is It Ethical?

[avromie7]

... To download the APK of a paid app that they don't allow you to download in your country of residence?

if they don't let you pay for it of course you can take it for free

[@Yehuda]

Why in this thread? How is this an ethical question?

Wrong thread.

Reread my question, and I realize now that you're right. Chaim, I hope you can forgive me for being rude.
The reason I posted it here was because I was trying to continue a conversation that started as an ethical conversation a few weeks ago. My question today, though, wasn't addressing the ethical part of the discussion.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Reread my question, and I realize now that you're right. Chaim, I hope you can forgive me for being rude.
The reason I posted it here was because I was trying to continue a conversation that started as an ethical conversation a few weeks ago. My question today, though, wasn't addressing the ethical part of the discussion.

NP and to answer your question they can see all the bonuses you received if they look deep enough. It seems that they don't really care.

[Ergel]

Can. I'm sure if they actually did look, they would not award the bonus again. I want to know if someone churns properly with a new FFN, could they still technically look his account up by SSN and decide not to give the bonus again? Or because there's a new FFN, they can't search him up properly to see if he ever got the bonus before?

Again, is your question could they set up a database to track based on SSN? The answer is most certainly yes. Does each issuer have such a database? That's anybody's guess

[@Yehuda]

Again, is your question could they set up a database to track based on SSN? The answer is most certainly yes. Does each issuer have such a database? That's anybody's guess

Right, I'm sure they could create a query to pull up that info if they actually wanted to. So, the more likely case is that they know and

they don't really care.

Just looking for more knowledge on the discussion to present to my Rabbi who said

"ehhhh"

to churning a card that requires a new FFN.

[Ergel]

So, the more likely case is that they would prefer you didn't but for whatever reason it's not worth their time/effort to stop you

FTFY

[@Yehuda]

FTFY

Right gotcha. Thanks for the input. Will bring up the discussion with my Rabbi again.

[moko]

....to take a car rental shuttle from the airport when you have no intention of renting a car?

[avromie7]

....to take a car rental shuttle from the airport when you have no intention of renting a car?

i think that's just wrong

[Joe4007]

i think that's just wrong

And the difference between wrong and unethical?

[avromie7]

And the difference between wrong and unethical?

None really it's abusing the system

[Dr Moose]

....to take a car rental shuttle from the airport when you have no intention of renting a car?

what do they lose by having you on the bus

[avromie7]

what do they lose by having you on the bus

the more passengers the more buses are needed

[AharonInIsrael]

...to apply for cards that specify you need to be a "U.S. resident" and even though you could legally prove residence, you actually feel like you reside overseas?

[@Yehuda]

...to apply for cards that specify you need to be a "U.S. resident" and even though you could legally prove residence, you actually feel like you reside overseas?

Nah, I feel like resident means you need to have an address.

[avromie7]

...to apply for cards that specify you need to be a "U.S. resident" and even though you could legally prove residence, you actually feel like you reside overseas?

if you are a resident what's the problem besides most such things have to do with legal things

[avadah]

...to apply for cards that specify you need to be a "U.S. resident" and even though you could legally prove residence, you actually feel like you reside overseas?

1 day or 2 days? 

[ChaimMoskowitz]

For Amex to close cards and not pay the rewards earned?

[Achas Veachas]

For Amex to close cards and not pay the rewards earned?

You're asking a bank to be ethical?

[Ergel]

Pure rishus (unless there was a breaking of T&C that led to the closure)

What about when they pay out 1 cent per MR for closed accounts