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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* It's most likely not ethical.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2012, 06:30:18 PM »
Ethical to sign up for cards with sign up bonuses and then cancel them after points are received?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2012, 08:42:21 PM »
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2012, 10:15:50 PM »
I am glad the Torah is giving you permission to steal.

If a stranger sends you $15 in the mail and you don't return it are you a thief??
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Is It Ethical?
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2012, 10:17:05 PM »
If a stranger sends you $15 in the mail and you don't return it are you a thief??

If its a yid and it was done by accident then yeah (or atleast I think so)

now the answer to widdleavi is that I'm glad you're glad. if the torah says it's muttar who are you to assur it?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2012, 09:47:20 AM »
If its a yid and it was done by accident then yeah (or atleast I think so)

now the answer to widdleavi is that I'm glad you're glad. if the torah says it's muttar who are you to assur it?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2012, 01:26:14 PM »
To get miles/points, even if you don't earn (deserve) them.

I am getting thousands of them, but I don't deserve it (no, I don't work hard doing this, I am BH a busy businessman).

I have ways of getting them for free (yes, FREE), some ways of getting them for 0.005/mile, and some ways of getting them for 0.007/mile

Please don't ask me how......I will not reveal the trick, but I fly about 3 firsts (Europe/TLV etc.) every year out of it, I am not overly abusing the system, but I still feel guilty.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2012, 02:09:04 PM »
Please don't ask me how......I will not reveal the trick, but I fly about 3 firsts (Europe/TLV etc.) every year out of it, I am not overly abusing the system, but I still feel guilty.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2012, 08:26:34 PM »
To get miles/points, even if you don't earn (deserve) them.

I am getting thousands of them, but I don't deserve it (no, I don't work hard doing this, I am BH a busy businessman).

I have ways of getting them for free (yes, FREE), some ways of getting them for 0.005/mile, and some ways of getting them for 0.007/mile

Please don't ask me how......I will not reveal the trick, but I fly about 3 firsts (Europe/TLV etc.) every year out of it, I am not overly abusing the system, but I still feel guilty.


why are you lying on an anonymous forum?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2012, 09:29:21 PM »
why are you lying on an anonymous forum?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2012, 10:10:51 PM »
I am a little shocked that some of this stuff even has to be asked. If you bought something on sale and they are ready to refund full price you should say something. If they still choose to give you back full amount then it's on them but at least you are honest.  As for the other thread about the canceled amazon purchase: of course you should return the item. Someone is losing the money, either amazon or the seller. I don't get this idea of it's OK if it's from a goy !! It's NOT OK !!! It's really simple, be honest and do the right thing.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2012, 12:28:23 AM »
I am glad the Torah is giving you permission to steal.

Here is something to think about. If you will not be making a kiddush hashem by returning, or chillul hashem by not, is it possible that not only would you not be required to return it but it would actually be an issur of Lo Si’cha’neim?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2012, 12:44:37 AM »
Here is something to think about. If you will not be making a kiddush hashem by returning, or chillul hashem by not, is it possible that not only would you not be required to return it but it would actually be an issur of Lo Si’cha’neim?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2012, 08:53:27 AM »
I think we shouldn't mix "is it ethical?' with "is it allowed according to the halacha?".
After all i think we have no dayanim or rabanim on this forum. (If we do, i sincerely apologize).
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2012, 09:40:31 AM »
I think we shouldn't mix "is it ethical?' with "is it allowed according to the halacha?".
Especially when some members have no idea what “halacha” means along with many other words.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2012, 10:02:21 AM »
Especially when some members have no idea what “halacha” means along with many other words.

Getting a bit OT.

Allot me to bring us back.

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