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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* It's most likely not ethical.

Author Topic: Is It Ethical?  (Read 282774 times)

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #150 on: March 20, 2012, 04:32:01 PM »
You are right that its not ethical to churn etc. But you seem to be seeking extra trouble here. Why do you have to slam the "forum" when you wanna make a point? Just say polity or jokingly that "well, this is what were all doing here, its part of life that we're not so ethical when we confront a big signup bonus" etc. Why do you always seek to be provocative and bash the forum itself, and always comparing it to others? That'd not the point (I believe) you really wanna make.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #151 on: March 20, 2012, 05:01:58 PM »
Why do you always seek to be provocative and bash the forum itself, and always comparing it to others?
Do you want to see what bashing a forum looks like so you will know the difference (rhetorical question)?

When I answer some of your questions from information I learned from other forums is that OK (real question)?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #152 on: March 20, 2012, 06:17:05 PM »
When I answer some of your questions from information I learned from other forums is that OK (real question)?

I's OK assuming you actually answer the question and not just rephrase it with vague hints

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #153 on: March 20, 2012, 06:29:50 PM »
I's OK assuming you actually answer the question and not just rephrase it with vague hints
FYI: According to AsherO you should have not responded to my question because it was not directed at you.  :)
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #154 on: March 20, 2012, 06:44:38 PM »
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #155 on: March 20, 2012, 06:46:47 PM »
I appoint smurf as a joint account holder of my question.
I asked the question not you so you have no standing in this matter.  :)
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #156 on: March 21, 2012, 01:00:57 PM »
+1. I except I wouldn't go out of my to return it to the store, would just not use it.
However, if it is a privately owned goyish company I would definitely use it as it is טעות עכום. There are many easier ways if I was looking to specifically make a kiddush hashem

It makes a difference if a Jew or Goy owns the company?
I'm sorry if I misunderstood, I dont speak or read hebrew so I dont know what טעות עכום means.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #157 on: March 21, 2012, 01:04:25 PM »
It makes a difference if a Jew or Goy owns the company?
I'm sorry if I misunderstood, I dont speak or read hebrew so I dont know what טעות עכום means.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #158 on: March 21, 2012, 01:47:59 PM »
= Mistake by a Goy.

You are correct. Wanna explain?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #159 on: March 21, 2012, 01:52:08 PM »
You are correct. Wanna explain?

I'm ain't no Rabbi, but the gist of it is that if a Goy makes a (commercial) mistake (e.g. gives you $10 change instead of $5), you would not be obligated to correct him and/or return the money, though often times one can make a big kiddush Hashem for doing so.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #160 on: March 21, 2012, 02:00:25 PM »
though often times one can make a big kiddush Hashem for doing so.

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You may want to elaborate on that.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #161 on: March 21, 2012, 02:02:07 PM »
You may want to elaborate on that.

Oops. My bad  :-[

Good catch.

Try here for (sort of) an explanation.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #162 on: March 21, 2012, 02:05:06 PM »
Oops. My bad  :-[

Good catch.

I can't blame you. You see Lakewood NJ, and assume...

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #163 on: March 21, 2012, 02:16:43 PM »
Oops. My bad  :-[

Good catch.

Try here for (sort of) an explanation.

Very interesting, thanks for the clarification. I'm surprised in the answer, I would think being honest is obligatory regardless of what type of person made the mistake.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #164 on: March 21, 2012, 02:29:31 PM »
I'm surprised in the answer, I would think being honest is obligatory regardless of what type of person made the mistake.
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