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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* If you have to ask, It's most likely not ethical.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2012, 01:26:14 PM »
To get miles/points, even if you don't earn (deserve) them.

I am getting thousands of them, but I don't deserve it (no, I don't work hard doing this, I am BH a busy businessman).

I have ways of getting them for free (yes, FREE), some ways of getting them for 0.005/mile, and some ways of getting them for 0.007/mile

Please don't ask me how......I will not reveal the trick, but I fly about 3 firsts (Europe/TLV etc.) every year out of it, I am not overly abusing the system, but I still feel guilty.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2012, 02:09:04 PM »
Please don't ask me how......I will not reveal the trick, but I fly about 3 firsts (Europe/TLV etc.) every year out of it, I am not overly abusing the system, but I still feel guilty.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2012, 08:26:34 PM »
To get miles/points, even if you don't earn (deserve) them.

I am getting thousands of them, but I don't deserve it (no, I don't work hard doing this, I am BH a busy businessman).

I have ways of getting them for free (yes, FREE), some ways of getting them for 0.005/mile, and some ways of getting them for 0.007/mile

Please don't ask me how......I will not reveal the trick, but I fly about 3 firsts (Europe/TLV etc.) every year out of it, I am not overly abusing the system, but I still feel guilty.


why are you lying on an anonymous forum?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2012, 09:29:21 PM »
why are you lying on an anonymous forum?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2012, 10:10:51 PM »
I am a little shocked that some of this stuff even has to be asked. If you bought something on sale and they are ready to refund full price you should say something. If they still choose to give you back full amount then it's on them but at least you are honest.  As for the other thread about the canceled amazon purchase: of course you should return the item. Someone is losing the money, either amazon or the seller. I don't get this idea of it's OK if it's from a goy !! It's NOT OK !!! It's really simple, be honest and do the right thing.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2012, 12:28:23 AM »
I am glad the Torah is giving you permission to steal.

Here is something to think about. If you will not be making a kiddush hashem by returning, or chillul hashem by not, is it possible that not only would you not be required to return it but it would actually be an issur of Lo Si’cha’neim?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2012, 12:44:37 AM »
Here is something to think about. If you will not be making a kiddush hashem by returning, or chillul hashem by not, is it possible that not only would you not be required to return it but it would actually be an issur of Lo Si’cha’neim?
lol but only possible if you dress like steve2 (for those of us, who are old enough to remember him ;) ).

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2012, 08:53:27 AM »
I think we shouldn't mix "is it ethical?' with "is it allowed according to the halacha?".
After all i think we have no dayanim or rabanim on this forum. (If we do, i sincerely apologize).
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2012, 09:40:31 AM »
I think we shouldn't mix "is it ethical?' with "is it allowed according to the halacha?".
Especially when some members have no idea what “halacha” means along with many other words.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2012, 10:02:21 AM »
Especially when some members have no idea what “halacha” means along with many other words.

Getting a bit OT.

Allot me to bring us back.

Emmanuel Kant, says to , always (no matter what type of situation, tell the truth.
Do you agree with this?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2012, 10:06:07 AM »
Emmanuel Kant, says to , always (no matter what type of situation, tell the truth.
Do you agree with this?
No!
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2012, 10:08:18 AM »
absolutely not

Kant was obviously never married

would any guy every tell the truth to his wife if she asked if she looked bad in a dress

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2012, 10:32:00 AM »
absolutely not

Kant was obviously never married

would any guy every tell the truth to his wife if she asked if she looked bad in a dress

That is funny, bc, according to several sources, he wasn't married.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2012, 12:30:40 PM »
would any guy every tell the truth to his wife if she asked if she looked bad in a dress
Color me odd, but I'll tell my wife "maybe the other dress" or if I didn't care for dinner.  Better than eating the same dinner every week for the rest of my life pretending to like it!
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2012, 12:31:50 PM »
Color me odd, but I'll tell my wife "maybe the other dress" or if I didn't care for dinner.  Better than eating the same dinner every week for the rest of my life pretending to like it!

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but how about once you're already at the wedding and she asks?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2012, 12:32:20 PM »
Color me odd, but I'll tell my wife "maybe the other dress" or if I didn't care for dinner.  Better than eating the same dinner every week for the rest of my life pretending to like it!
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2012, 12:38:09 PM »
Color me odd, but I'll tell my wife "maybe the other dress" or if I didn't care for dinner.  Better than eating the same dinner every week for the rest of my life pretending to like it!

It makes total sense. In fact, my wife encourages me to to tell her if I didn't like something because as she says (as you do), "it's better than me making it over and over again if you don't like it." Even still it's hard for me to say "I didn't like it." To me its a touchy situation. Thankfully it's only happened once :P (and even then I used the below advice:)

But I think you're right. Don't ever say something negative, always suggest a better alternative like "I think I like the other dress better" or "this chicken is good, but I think I liked the chicken you made last week a tad better."

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2012, 12:44:41 PM »
It makes total sense. In fact, my wife encourages me to to tell her if I didn't like something because as she says (as you do), "it's better than me making it over and over again if you don't like it." Even still it's hard for me to say "I didn't like it." To me its a touchy situation. Thankfully it's only happened once :P (and even then I used the below advice:)

But I think you're right. Don't ever say something negative, always suggest a better alternative like "I think I like the other dress better" or "this chicken is good, but I think I liked the chicken you made last week a tad better."

Sorry to be cliche, but I've found "a happy wife is a happy life" more true than not :P
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2012, 12:45:26 PM »
Quote

Sorry to be cliche, but I've found "a happy wife is a happy life" more true than not :P

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2012, 12:46:36 PM »
Or you could say " I love it but please never make it again"
No thats not a good one.
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