Author Topic: Is It Ethical? (Read 565949 times)

Mordechai Shapiro · « **Reply #2720 on:** July 13, 2022, 02:27:08 PM »

Quote from: Yehuda57 on July 13, 2022, 01:24:08 PM

If I have a music subscription service like Spotify or YouTube music, is it unethical to stream music on a device with the volume off for hours on end while I sleep and such and generate revenue for the artists? In this hypothetical, I'm not the artist, I'm not related to the artist, and wasn't asked by the artist to do this.

It's allowed, no worries.

coffeebean · « **Reply #2721 on:** July 13, 2022, 02:28:20 PM »

Quote from: Euclid on July 13, 2022, 01:38:45 PM

It's possible the apps detect this

Detect snoring?

Ver hut gazugt · « **Reply #2722 on:** July 13, 2022, 02:44:22 PM »

Quote from: coffeebean on July 13, 2022, 02:28:20 PM

Detect snoring?

used for a longer time then normal.

coffeebean · « **Reply #2723 on:** July 13, 2022, 02:53:02 PM »

Quote from: Ver hut gazugt on July 13, 2022, 02:44:22 PM

used for a longer time then normal.

Define normal? How would one differ?

Ver hut gazugt · « **Reply #2724 on:** July 13, 2022, 03:03:04 PM »

Quote from: coffeebean on July 13, 2022, 02:53:02 PM

Define normal? How would one differ?

I can’t see there back end data so I have no idea.

Euclid · « **Reply #2725 on:** July 13, 2022, 04:10:04 PM »

Quote from: coffeebean on July 13, 2022, 02:28:20 PM

Detect snoring?

Volume on 0

Euclid · « **Reply #2726 on:** July 13, 2022, 04:11:06 PM »

Quote from: Ver hut gazugt on July 13, 2022, 02:44:22 PM

used for a longer time then normal.

This too. They might have a "are you still listening" prompt ala YouTube/Netflix etc

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #2727 on:** July 13, 2022, 04:26:00 PM »

Quote from: Euclid on July 13, 2022, 04:10:04 PM

Volume on 0

Could plug in headphones and play it full blast for all I care.

Quote from: Euclid on July 13, 2022, 04:11:06 PM

This too. They might have a "are you still listening" prompt ala YouTube/Netflix etc

It goes on for quite a while before you get that. Can still get plenty of plays in

WonderingYid · « **Reply #2728 on:** July 13, 2022, 05:21:47 PM »

Quote from: Yehuda57 on July 13, 2022, 04:26:00 PM

Could plug in headphones and play it full blast for all I care.

It goes on for quite a while before you get that. Can still get plenty of plays in

Maybe if you don't respond it will deduct the plays?

WonderingYid · « **Reply #2729 on:** July 13, 2022, 05:24:08 PM »

Quote from: Yehuda57 on July 13, 2022, 01:24:08 PM

If I have a music subscription service like Spotify or YouTube music, is it unethical to stream music on a device with the volume off for hours on end while I sleep and such and generate revenue for the artists? In this hypothetical, I'm not the artist, I'm not related to the artist, and wasn't asked by the artist to do this.

Quote from: Euclid on July 13, 2022, 04:11:06 PM

This too. They might have a "are you still listening" prompt ala YouTube/Netflix etc

Quote from: Ver hut gazugt on July 13, 2022, 02:44:22 PM

used for a longer time then normal.

This went from "is it ethical" to how can I get away with it. 😃

YitzyS · « **Reply #2730 on:** August 23, 2022, 02:27:09 PM »

I made an order in a Lakewood food store nearly two months ago. I got an email yesterday from the store saying that I was mistakenly not charged at the time and they will instead charge me now.

Is that ethical?

Abebee · « **Reply #2731 on:** August 23, 2022, 02:33:20 PM »

Quote from: YitzyS on August 23, 2022, 02:27:09 PM

I made an order in a Lakewood food store nearly two months ago. I got an email yesterday from the store saying that I was mistakenly not charged at the time and they will instead charge me now.

Is that ethical?

I think an email/call prior to process the payment is ethical. Not sure what time frame would change my answer - but 2 months isn't that long and I would have to assume it was a batch of orders that weren't charged which would result in significant loss.

CountValentine · « **Reply #2732 on:** August 23, 2022, 02:38:01 PM »

Quote from: YitzyS on August 23, 2022, 02:27:09 PM

I made an order in a Lakewood food store nearly two months ago. I got an email yesterday from the store saying that I was mistakenly not charged at the time and they will instead charge me now.

Is that ethical?

Are they correct?
I better question would be were you aware not being charged and did you try and correct the situation. Is that ethical?

sillypainter · « **Reply #2733 on:** August 23, 2022, 02:47:03 PM »

Quote from: Abebee on August 23, 2022, 02:33:20 PM

I think an email/call prior to process the payment is ethical. Not sure what time frame would change my answer - but 2 months isn't that long and I would have to assume it was a batch of orders that weren't charged which would result in significant loss.

This has with ethical zero to do. You got a service or a product and you have to pay for it.

CountValentine · « **Reply #2734 on:** August 23, 2022, 03:02:22 PM »

Quote from: YitzyS on August 23, 2022, 02:19:42 PM

Where can I get some student debt quickly?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-expected-to-announce-10k-student-loan-cancellation-payment-pause-extension-wednesday/ar-AA110u9E?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=e794366e35ca43a49223b640d836759f

Lurker · « **Reply #2735 on:** August 23, 2022, 05:02:46 PM »

Quote from: YitzyS on August 23, 2022, 02:27:09 PM

I made an order in a Lakewood food store nearly two months ago. I got an email yesterday from the store saying that I was mistakenly not charged at the time and they will instead charge me now.

Is that ethical?

What's the question? Would you be ok with taking their food without being charged?

If it messes up your budget, you can ask them to split the charge or wait a short period to charge you.

YitzyS · « **Reply #2736 on:** August 23, 2022, 05:30:20 PM »

The question really is whether there is a self-understood mutual understanding that when you swipe your card it will be charged within a reasonable amount of time.

CountValentine · « **Reply #2737 on:** August 23, 2022, 05:42:59 PM »

Quote from: YitzyS on August 23, 2022, 05:30:20 PM

The question really is whether there is a self-understood mutual understanding that when you swipe your card it will be charged within a reasonable amount of time.

Like if you take something and don't get caught for 90 days then it is yours?

YitzyS · « **Reply #2738 on:** August 23, 2022, 06:52:38 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on August 23, 2022, 05:42:59 PM

Like if you take something and don't get caught for 90 days then it is yours?

Everyone agrees that it is the establishment's responsibility to process the transaction after I give them a valid card. The only question is what happens now that they botched their job. Bottom line is that I still didn't pay them, but that is absolutely their fault.

coffeebean · « **Reply #2739 on:** August 23, 2022, 06:54:05 PM »

Quote from: YitzyS on August 23, 2022, 02:27:09 PM

I made an order in a Lakewood food store nearly two months ago. I got an email yesterday from the store saying that I was mistakenly not charged at the time and they will instead charge me now.

Is that ethical?

It happened to a bunch of stores in Lakewood and other areas. It was a Curb n Go issue not the restaurant. I have a video of owner explaining the issue.

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