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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* If you have to ask, It's most likely not ethical.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #320 on: August 08, 2012, 10:14:59 PM »
@lamdan
This is a secular forum. (which accidentally attracted a huge crowd of a certain culture/religion).
Well, then it was mean of you to have a username that the intended audience of this forum wouldn't understand. :P
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #321 on: August 08, 2012, 10:26:55 PM »
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This is a secular forum. (which accidentally attracted a huge crowd of a certain culture/religion).

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #322 on: August 08, 2012, 10:40:38 PM »
BTW, I think this whole thread has no shaychus. Is it Ethical? I don't care! What does the Torah think? Is it al pi Torah - Halachically and Hashkaficly?, that's what I want to know. Ethics - based on what?  - farshtunkene Western Culture, that thinks there's nothing wrong with walking around halb naked. I think, Is it Ethical, is the wrong way for a frum jew to phrase a question if something is right or wrong. Is it Al Pi Torah?, that's relevant.

Are there never any situations where something may be permitted by torah law and still not be questioned if it's ethical or not?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #323 on: August 08, 2012, 11:09:35 PM »
Are there never any situations where something may be permitted by torah law and hashkafa and still not be questioned if it's ethical or not?
no
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Re: Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #324 on: August 08, 2012, 11:36:59 PM »
maybe next time don't read it in a condescending way. ppl with self esteem issues read things in a condescending way, even though there is no tone of voice in the written word.
Some times you don't need tone to tell if something is condescending, like this post where you accuse me of having low self esteem. Unless that wasn't condescending either
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Re: Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #325 on: August 08, 2012, 11:42:07 PM »
Some times you don't need tone to tell if something is condescending, like this post where you accuse me of having low self esteem. Unless that wasn't condescending either
The low self esteem post was condescending to someone who ripped me - you. The post b4 that about "ethical" was not condescending at all - unless you have a low self esteem.
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Re: Re: Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #326 on: August 08, 2012, 11:45:34 PM »
The low self esteem post was condescending to someone who ripped me - you. The post b4 that about "ethical" was not condescending at all - unless you have a low self esteem.
You got me. I have low self esteem. Thanks for embarrassing me in public and further lowering my self esteem
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Re: Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #327 on: August 08, 2012, 11:47:39 PM »
no
Wow.
Why would you edit my quote?
That wasn't my question.
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Re: Re: Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #328 on: August 08, 2012, 11:48:19 PM »
You got me. I have low self esteem. Thanks for embarrassing me in public and further lowering my self esteem
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Re: Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #329 on: August 08, 2012, 11:50:08 PM »
 
Wow.
Why would you edit my quote?
That wasn't my question.
I bolded what I edited. My point is that if you modify the question to include hashkafa, I would answer - no. No harm intended.  :) :) :) :) :)
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Re: Re: Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #330 on: August 08, 2012, 11:52:44 PM »
I bolded what I edited. My point is that if you modify the question to include hashkafa, I would answer - no. No harm intended.  :) :) :) :) :)

Just curious as to why you don't consider ethics to be part of hashkafa?
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Re: Re: Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #331 on: August 09, 2012, 12:00:49 AM »
Just curious as to why you don't consider ethics to be part of hashkafa?
Normally - is it ethical?, is a question featured in many secular magazines and newspapers, answered by a bunch of shtufei zima - toevahnikers. Technically, mussar can be translated as ethics.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #332 on: August 09, 2012, 12:36:50 AM »
If you all what to talk religion how about starting another thread. This one is about ethics not religion.
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Re: Re: Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #333 on: August 09, 2012, 12:38:41 AM »
Just curious as to why you don't consider ethics to be part of hashkafa?
If you all what to talk religion how about starting another thread. This one is about ethics not religion.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #334 on: August 09, 2012, 12:50:11 AM »
Ethics and religion have nothing to do with each other. If you want to start a thread on religion I would be more than happy to participate but I guarantee you that you will not like what I have to say.

Example: A large part of this site could be looked at as to take advantage, scam or exploit deals. What religion do you know of that condones this? So before someone wants to open this can of worms you might want to look in the mirror first.   
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #335 on: August 09, 2012, 01:00:41 AM »
Ethics and religion have nothing to do with each other. If you want to start a thread on religion I would be more than happy to participate but I guarantee you that you will not like what I have to say.

Example: A large part of this site could be looked at as to take advantage, scam or exploit deals. What religion do you know of that condones this? So before someone wants to open this can of worms you might want to look in the mirror first.   

Sounds like oodles of fun! But I don't think even Just Shmooze could handle such a topic. You'd have to make a whole new domain name IMHO. (JBTW I look great in the mirror :P)
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #336 on: August 09, 2012, 01:06:05 AM »
Sounds like oodles of fun! But I don't think even Just Shmooze could handle such a topic. You'd have to make a whole new domain name IMHO. (JBTW I look great in the mirror :P)
I donít know if I would call it fun especially when someone could not tell the difference from my views and a point I would be trying to make. I hate to be the one to break the news to you but you need a new mirror!  :P 
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #337 on: August 09, 2012, 01:31:57 AM »
I donít know if I would call it fun especially when someone could not tell the difference from my views and a point I would be trying to make. I hate to be the one to break the news to you but you need a new mirror!  :P 
Obviously you just have to ignore the ignoramuses like any good debate. The mirror comment hurts now that I know you've seen me ;). When we do start this thread are we going to get in to real religious debate like Isiah 53 and all the Nachmanodies debates with Priests from the middle ages :)) (I have a feeling some people will hate this post and I'll prob. end up deleting it. Like I said need a new domain name IMHO.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #338 on: August 09, 2012, 01:43:22 AM »
Obviously you just have to ignore the ignoramuses like any good debate. The mirror comment hurts now that I know you've seen me ;). When we do start this thread are we going to get in to real religious debate like Isiah 53 and all the Nachmanodies debates with Priests from the middle ages :)) (I have a feeling some people will hate this post and I'll prob. end up deleting it. Like I said need a new domain name IMHO.
You trying to start a war?  :)
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Re: Is It Ethical?
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You trying to start a war?  :)
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