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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* It's most likely not ethical.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #75 on: January 08, 2012, 06:56:42 PM »
So just to be clear. You don't find the practice of "renting" to be unethical?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #76 on: January 08, 2012, 06:58:03 PM »
So just to be clear. You don't find the practice of "renting" to be unethical?

I asked and was told that it's okay so no, I don't think it is.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #77 on: January 08, 2012, 07:19:45 PM »
Just for a start, something that has been bothering me for a while.
Is it ethical to use your 'hatzolah/shmirah/ chaveirim/etc. Parking permit to park on a handicap spot when you are not on a call/emergency (but just plain lazy)?!
This really bothers me when I see it happening in (Jewish) shopping areas.
1) the parking permit is not for when you are on a call, You dont need one when you are on a call even if you dont have one when you are actually on a call you can park where you want/need

2) now that that has been said, the purpose for the permits is so that the car can be near by if G-D forbid there actually is an emergency and the member needs to leave asap-  let me ask you: If let us say you were in that jewish shopping area and you were having G-D forbid a stroke or chest pains would you want this member to be running around the lot looking for his car?????????

3) i for sure find it un ethical to jump to conclusions just because that is what you would have done if you were in that situation.


DISCLAIMER: i am not saying that these members are not lazy but i am saying 1) they have a legit excuse this time   2) dont make assumptions



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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #78 on: January 08, 2012, 07:20:50 PM »
I asked and was told that it's okay so no, I don't think it is.

You asked about cards or about renting an item from a store? Because i hear a huge difference- just saying

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #79 on: January 08, 2012, 07:26:02 PM »
You asked about cards or about renting an item from a store? Because i hear a huge difference- just saying

borrowing but again I want to stress not to rely on me and to ask your own posek

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #80 on: January 08, 2012, 07:30:25 PM »
borrowing but again I want to stress not to rely on me and to ask your own posek
trust me i am not- i have been trained not to- especially when it comes to halacha and judaism- and for sure for sure hashkafa.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #81 on: January 09, 2012, 08:18:38 AM »
I asked and was told that it's okay so no, I don't think it is.

Good, at the end of the day, everyone should ask a posek. What we are discussing here is if it is ethical. That means if it is a kiyum of the pasuk "Veasisa hayashar vehatov" not just avoiding an issur of "Lo sigzol". We have Halacha, Shuras HaDin, and we have lifnim mishuras hadin.

Another salient issue here, as was mentioned, is the potential for Kidush Hashem or ChvSh Chillul Hashem. Every Frum Yid must always bear in mind the possible outcome of publicity of his dealings. For me, an incident in C-Town a few years ago really had a big impression on me. (Dan, you heard about this?) I was planning on investing with some people there. They had a good business plan and lawyers went over the contracts and said it was sound. In the end, the gov. went after them and filed a big indictment against them. After reading through the entire thing and being aware of the setup, the idea I got was that they did nothing illegal, or barely nothing, for sure nothing significant. They built up a whole case against them painting the whole business as a scam. B'kitzur, anything we do can be later distorted so we should try to be as clean as possible and not get seduced by short term gain with possible risk in the long term.

We have a responsibility to the Klal.
siyag lachachma :-)

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2012, 08:07:13 AM »
BUMP

It seems he is not Jewish. He is too smart for himself, can not see the obvious.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #84 on: January 10, 2012, 01:40:13 PM »
It seems he is not Jewish. He is too smart for himself, can not see the obvious.
because i thought i heard a story from a guy and he was talking about him - forusre had his disease - and the guy in the story was jewish. i just dont want to say it if its not him

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #85 on: January 12, 2012, 05:43:27 PM »
Been quiet for some time and before the other threads starts, thought I'd post here.

As posted here , if you're a non profit organization you can get a free Keurig.

Now, apparently you don't really have to be in order to order it.

So is there anything wrong with anyone getting one?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2012, 03:08:14 AM »
So is there anything wrong with anyone getting one?

On what grounds do you consider yourself eligible? Or are you saying that if they don't check they don't really care?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #87 on: January 13, 2012, 01:05:27 PM »
Been quiet for some time and before the other threads starts, thought I'd post here.

As posted here , if you're a non profit organization you can get a free Keurig.

Now, apparently you don't really have to be in order to order it.

So is there anything wrong with anyone getting one?
who doesnt run a non profit

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Infant turning 2 before return flight
« Reply #88 on: March 01, 2012, 12:30:02 PM »
I can only assume you are taking an International flight....because for Domestic, you don't need ID for the child....and his/her birthday is only known to you....
Ethical? Stealing?
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Re: Infant turning 2 before return flight
« Reply #89 on: March 01, 2012, 12:34:31 PM »
Ethical? Stealing?

Wrong forum for that!  US Mint, 3BM, Venmo, etc., etc., etc., etc.