Author Topic: Is It Ethical? (Read 563363 times)

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #1960 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:15:37 AM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on April 28, 2015, 11:12:04 AM

Why is your scenario different than my scenario?

My scenario is hands down unethical. Your scenario is a tough call.

@Yehuda · « **Reply #1961 on:** April 28, 2015, 11:26:48 AM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 28, 2015, 11:15:37 AM

My scenario is hands down unethical. Your scenario is a tough call.

Hahaha Ah, I missed that. Gotcha.

@Yehuda · « **Reply #1962 on:** April 30, 2015, 11:36:36 AM »

I posed the scenario to my Rabbi and (to my surprise) he thought it would be appropriate to tell them that I had cancelled my reservation on my own, and then see what they say - perhaps they would like the honesty and give me something anyway.

I just called and told the rep that I had cancelled my ressy already. She paused and then said, "Welllll, our system says you have a reservation." And then she gave me 20K points. :-) Yay for honesty!

beeweegee · « **Reply #1963 on:** April 30, 2015, 12:35:58 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on April 30, 2015, 11:36:36 AM

I posed the scenario to my Rabbi and (to my surprise) he thought it would be appropriate to tell them that I had cancelled my reservation on my own, and then see what they say - perhaps they would like the honesty and give me something anyway.

I just called and told the rep that I had cancelled my ressy already. She paused and then said, "Welllll, our system says you have a reservation." And then she gave me 20K points. :-) Yay for honesty!

Nice! Love it...

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #1964 on:** April 30, 2015, 03:56:23 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on April 30, 2015, 11:36:36 AM

I posed the scenario to my Rabbi and (to my surprise) he thought it would be appropriate to tell them that I had cancelled my reservation on my own, and then see what they say - perhaps they would like the honesty and give me something anyway.

I just called and told the rep that I had cancelled my ressy already. She paused and then said, "Welllll, our system says you have a reservation." And then she gave me 20K points. :-) Yay for honesty!

You did your part and I like the way your Rabbi rolls.

@Yehuda · « **Reply #1965 on:** April 30, 2015, 04:09:15 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on April 30, 2015, 03:56:23 PM

You did your part and I like the way your Rabbi rolls.

Yordai Dooma · « **Reply #1966 on:** May 01, 2015, 01:59:18 PM »

How long should a piece of carry-on luggage last?
Bought it in 07/2011 from Costco...
Should i return it (Costco lifetime returns) or just buy a new one as i got almost 4 years out of it (used it 6-10 days out of every month).

Ergel · « **Reply #1967 on:** May 01, 2015, 02:11:45 PM »

Personally I'd just buy a new one

@Yehuda · « **Reply #1968 on:** May 01, 2015, 02:19:45 PM »

OT1H, I feel weird returning something that has only gone through normal wear and tear.
OTOH, certain items have a lifetime guarantee for a reason. They want you to always be happy with the product. See: Lands End

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The Lands' End guarantee has always been an unconditional one. It reads: "If you're not satisfied with any item, simply return it to us at any time for an exchange or refund of its purchase price." We mean every word of it. Whatever. Whenever. Always. But to make sure this is perfectly clear, we've decided to simplify it further: Guaranteed. Period.®

The thing with these returns is, if the store/company doesn't want to take it back because it goes against the T&C of returns, then they could say no. I once had a carry-on that the handle bent badly because I lifted it up stairs by the extended handle. That was not normal wear and tear. I contacted them about the issue and they said we'll replace it. Perhaps you want to go to Costco and explain how it has been damaged throughout the years and let the rep decide whether to accept the return.

dealfinder85 · « **Reply #1969 on:** May 01, 2015, 02:38:31 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on May 01, 2015, 02:19:45 PM

OT1H, I feel weird returning something that has only gone through normal wear and tear.
OTOH, certain items have a lifetime guarantee for a reason. They want you to always be happy with the product. See: Lands End
The thing with these returns is, if the store/company doesn't want to take it back because it goes against the T&C of returns, then they could say no. I once had a carry-on that the handle bent badly because I lifted it up stairs by the extended handle. That was not normal wear and tear. I contacted them about the issue and they said we'll replace it. Perhaps you want to go to Costco and explain how it has been damaged throughout the years and let the rep decide whether to accept the return.

i like that idea
i also dont like ppl bringing things back after a few years (see: many young couples who make chilul Hashems by getting new pots)
but laying it out on the table to them gives them the option

Yordai Dooma · « **Reply #1970 on:** May 01, 2015, 03:28:54 PM »

Quote from: dealfinder85 on May 01, 2015, 02:38:31 PM

i like that idea
i also dont like ppl bringing things back after a few years (see: many young couples who make chilul Hashems by getting new pots)
but laying it out on the table to them gives them the option

i could do that. i would feel so weird even asking them to (especially with a yarmulka on). Im leaving towards just buying a new one

yitrap · « **Reply #1971 on:** May 02, 2015, 06:21:48 PM »

Quote from: Yordai Dooma on May 01, 2015, 03:28:54 PM

i could do that. i would feel so weird even asking them to (especially with a yarmulka on). Im leaving towards just buying a new one

I don't know what I would do in such a situation but isn't the fact that you feel weird doing it some sort of indication that you feel it isn't the right thing?

thaber · « **Reply #1972 on:** May 05, 2015, 12:54:23 AM »

reminds me - I ordered something from Amazon, and they made a big deal (as they probably always do, but I happened to notice it) about the guaranteed delivery date, which was a Saturday. It came on Monday. On a whim I wrote them in email saying that i was surprised that they guaranteed a date and didn't stick to it. which was 100% true. they gave me a free month of Prime. I wasn't expecting it, and felt a little strange after the fact. But I didn't do anything at all wrong or dishonest. So feeling weird isn't really an indication.
OTOH, I'll probably start paying more attention to the dates now....

thaber · « **Reply #1973 on:** May 31, 2015, 05:14:37 PM »

For all those who say that Walmart doesn't lose from returns: http://server2.maxanet.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?spear3/category/ALL

yesitsme · « **Reply #1974 on:** May 31, 2015, 06:50:21 PM »

Quote from: thaber on May 05, 2015, 12:54:23 AM

reminds me - I ordered something from Amazon, and they made a big deal (as they probably always do, but I happened to notice it) about the guaranteed delivery date, which was a Saturday.

It's not so simple halachically to use guaranteed delivery for shabbos.

thaber · « **Reply #1975 on:** May 31, 2015, 06:52:24 PM »

Quote from: yesitsme on May 31, 2015, 06:50:21 PM

It's not so simple halachically to use guaranteed delivery for shabbos.

I'm aware. It usually comes earlier and I rarely pay attention.

ADG · « **Reply #1976 on:** June 05, 2015, 11:37:19 AM »

I had to return the huggies from Sams club cuz the didnt contain the poop ... they told me keep the money and the dippers! now i ordered pampers ( more amex fun) ... Is it ethical to cancel this order and hope to keep the pampers?

If it helps my case... I plan on donating the huggies to colell youngmen:)

avrumy22 · « **Reply #1977 on:** June 05, 2015, 11:40:50 AM »

Quote from: yesitsme on May 31, 2015, 06:50:21 PM

It's not so simple halachically to use guaranteed delivery for shabbos.

last three saturday deliveries i ordered from amazon came on monday.

yakrot · « **Reply #1978 on:** June 05, 2015, 11:41:29 AM »

Is it ethical to hide gift cards at stop and shop?

beeweegee · « **Reply #1979 on:** June 05, 2015, 11:42:24 AM »

Quote from: ADG on June 05, 2015, 11:37:19 AM

I had to return the huggies from Sams club cuz the didnt contain the poop ... they told me keep the money and the dippers! now i ordered pampers ( more amex fun) ... Is it ethical to cancel this order and hope to keep the pampers?

If it helps my case... I plan on donating the huggies to colell youngmen:)

I think most will say it is not ethical.
And no, it doesn't help your case.

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