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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* If you have to ask, It's most likely not ethical.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2380 on: February 26, 2018, 01:27:07 PM »
My company already gets a % discount at this retailer and I'm afraid that my getting cashback will eat into the retailer's profits.
The retailer decides how to do business, that includes all different types of offers. If they decided that it's worthwhile for them to have these offers available, there's no reason not to use it.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2381 on: February 26, 2018, 02:58:48 PM »
The retailer decides how to do business, that includes all different types of offers. If they decided that it's worthwhile for them to have these offers available, there's no reason not to use it.
you didn't answer the question. What makes you say that a realtor allows a personal account to be used for business?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2382 on: February 26, 2018, 03:18:03 PM »
Are cashback portals intended for personal shopping only or does that include business purchases?

This retailer offers services to other small businesses but it's open for personal accts as well. I'm not sure whether they primarily profit from small business orders or personal orders.

My company already gets a % discount at this retailer and I'm afraid that my getting cashback will eat into the retailer's profits.
I don't know portal intentions, Just pointing out...
Did you ask your employer if you may have that cashback? From what I understand they are entitled to it.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2383 on: February 26, 2018, 03:43:08 PM »
you didn't answer the question. What makes you say that a realtor allows a personal account to be used for business?
No reason to believe otherwise
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2384 on: February 26, 2018, 03:49:16 PM »
No reason to believe otherwise
your still not answering his question.
Are cashback portals intended for personal shopping only or does that include business purchases?


OP could also guess.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2385 on: February 26, 2018, 03:50:44 PM »
I don't know portal intentions, Just pointing out...
Did you ask your employer if you may have that cashback? From what I understand they are entitled to it.
just curious, are you coming from a halachic view or just common sense? I’d think it would belong to the person doing the purchasing

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2386 on: February 26, 2018, 03:51:44 PM »
your still not answering his question.OP could also guess.
Can I use a coupon in Macy's for a business purchase? Unless they specify otherwise, there's no reason not to.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2387 on: February 26, 2018, 03:52:08 PM »
your still not answering his question.OP could also guess.
most of their T&Cs say not for resellers, yet say nothing about business purposes, I don't know why you'd assume it's excluded
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2388 on: February 26, 2018, 03:52:49 PM »
just curious, are you coming from a halachic view or just common sense? I’d think it would belong to the person doing the purchasing
Halacha

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2389 on: February 26, 2018, 06:49:10 PM »
Are cashback portals intended for personal shopping only or does that include business purchases?

This retailer offers services to other small businesses but it's open for personal accts as well. I'm not sure whether they primarily profit from small business orders or personal orders.

My company already gets a % discount at this retailer and I'm afraid that my getting cashback will eat into the retailer's profits.
What do the T&C say?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2390 on: February 26, 2018, 11:08:08 PM »
Halacha
I recently saw in a book with psakim from reb Yisroel belsky that it should belong to the purchaser, but I’ll have to check again

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2391 on: February 26, 2018, 11:18:48 PM »
I recently saw in a book with psakim from reb Yisroel belsky that it should belong to the purchaser, but I’ll have to check again
The purchaser is the one spending the time to go through the portal, but on the other hand, if they're doing it during work hours then maybe it's not their time to spend...
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2392 on: February 26, 2018, 11:44:27 PM »
I don’t have the book, I think it’s called Living with Honesty, written by a talmid of his. I think  the question was, if someone gets reimbursed for business related travel expenses, if he uses a cc that gives cash back, can he expense the entire cost of the trip or does he have to subtract the cash back that he’s receiving from the credit card company? And he answers that he can expense the whole cost of the trip cuz the cash back is btwn him and the cc company and not btwn the cc company and the business. The cc companies have these incentives so that people will use their products and not others.
I forsure have his psak right, but I may have his line of reasoning wrong. I will try to look it up

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2393 on: February 27, 2018, 09:13:24 AM »
I don’t have the book, I think it’s called Living with Honesty, written by a talmid of his. I think  the question was, if someone gets reimbursed for business related travel expenses, if he uses a cc that gives cash back, can he expense the entire cost of the trip or does he have to subtract the cash back that he’s receiving from the credit card company? And he answers that he can expense the whole cost of the trip cuz the cash back is btwn him and the cc company and not btwn the cc company and the business. The cc companies have these incentives so that people will use their products and not others.
I forsure have his psak right, but I may have his line of reasoning wrong. I will try to look it up
Everyone agrees with that, I'm not so sure that a cash back portal would be the same.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2394 on: March 06, 2018, 11:29:36 AM »
...to vote in the D primary in the hopes of getting a weaker candidate for the R in the general election?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2395 on: March 06, 2018, 11:31:50 AM »


...to vote in the D primary in the hopes of getting a weaker candidate for the R in the general election?
I would have voted for Hillary, if she would have needed my help for the general
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2396 on: March 06, 2018, 11:58:44 AM »
...to vote in the D primary in the hopes of getting a weaker candidate for the R in the general election?
yes
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2397 on: March 06, 2018, 03:33:21 PM »
...to vote in the D primary in the hopes of getting a weaker candidate for the R in the general election?

I don't like that.  But, if you live in a jurisdiction that effectively only has one party, I think it's ok to vote for the D that you think is the lesser evil, even if you plan to vote against them in the general.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2398 on: March 06, 2018, 03:42:53 PM »
I don't like that. 
It is a yes or no question and no one cares what you like! YA MILTS!!!  :P
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #2399 on: March 22, 2018, 11:45:04 AM »
Question: I enrolled into a health insurance plan, which I knew I would only need for a few months. Now, it would not be ethical to enroll, plan to wait and see if I need any services, and then (if it turns out I didn't need it) just not pay and allow the insurance to be terminated.

What happened to me is that they screwed up the billing. I paid for the first month, but they decided to run a billing cycle starting from the 15th of the month - combined with the fact that I started in December, that raised my premium for what they called "the first month," since now it was half a month in 2017 and half in 2018.

I paid the additional amount, but they kept sending me bills that did not include that payment, and were more than I should be paying.

Numerous calls asking them to fix the issue and send me an accurate bill, back and forth...by the time they finally sent a correct bill, they had terminated my insurance due to lack of payment - when the reason it wasn't paid was because they hadn't sent an accurate bill!

Ethically/morally speaking, should I pay the premiums? I believe they cancel the coverage retroactively, but still...