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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* It's most likely not ethical.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #165 on: March 21, 2012, 02:46:16 PM »
It's definitely a good deed and a proper thing to do, but it's not required according to the letter of law.  Judaism applauds those that do things above the letter of the law, but it's not a requirement.

Does Christianity require you to return to WalMart in case of an honest pricing mistake or receiving too much change by accident?  You would probably consider it good Karma if you did so, but I doubt that anyone would tell you that you will burn in hell according to the letter of the law if you do not.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #166 on: March 21, 2012, 02:49:58 PM »
Does Christianity require you to return to WalMart in case of an honest pricing mistake or receiving too much change by accident? 
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #167 on: March 21, 2012, 02:51:00 PM »
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #168 on: March 21, 2012, 02:51:30 PM »
YES!!!
Well then I learned something.
So say if Amazon.com has a pricing error you wouldn't take advantage of it?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #169 on: March 21, 2012, 02:58:05 PM »
Well then I learned something.
So say if Amazon.com has a pricing error you wouldn't take advantage of it?
I will answer your question but do we really want to go down this road?

I most likely would take advantage of it.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #170 on: March 21, 2012, 03:00:29 PM »
Isn't it based on what your minister/priest tells you? AFAIK the only book of set laws in Christianity is in Catholicism the code of canon law, as to the inner workings of the church. Nothing like the shulchan aruch...
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #171 on: March 21, 2012, 03:01:04 PM »
So to be clear, your beef/surprise is that Judaism doesn't require you to correct a store's mistakes, but personally you would take advantage of said mistakes?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #172 on: March 21, 2012, 03:29:40 PM »
So to be clear, your beef/surprise is that Judaism doesn't require you to correct a store's mistakes, but personally you would take advantage of said mistakes?
Let me make this clear. I have no beef with any main stream religion that I know of. I believe any main stream religion is a plus in a personís life.

I was surprise that Judaism treats certain things differently depending if the merchant is Jewish or not. Is this a belief, law or do I just have it wrong?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #173 on: March 21, 2012, 03:39:17 PM »
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #174 on: March 21, 2012, 03:42:41 PM »
You can't steal from anyone, obviously.  And you must return an item to anyone that you find if you can discern who it belongs to.

Regarding an honest mistake Judaism does indeed differentiate between jew and gentile.  It's highly encouraged to sanctify G-ds name by doing the right thing and fixing the mistake in all cases, but it is not required according to the letter of the law.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #175 on: March 21, 2012, 03:50:45 PM »
You can't steal from anyone, obviously.  And you must return an item to anyone that you find if you can discern who it belongs to.

Regarding an honest mistake Judaism does indeed differentiate between jew and gentile.  It's highly encouraged to sanctify G-ds name by doing the right thing and fixing the mistake in all cases, but it is not required according to the letter of the law.
This is the part I am surprised at and to be honest do not understand.

Does Judaism teach that a gentile is inferior to a Jew? Is this totally false or maybe a belief held by a certain sect?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #176 on: March 21, 2012, 03:53:55 PM »
Does Christianity not teach that a jew is inferior to a christian and will go to hell if they don't convert? 
What else was the point of the spanish inquisition that my ancestors went through?

Does Islam not teach that non-muslims are all infidels and will all go to hell while they get 72 virgins in heaven for killing jews and christians?

Why do Mormons convert jews posthumously?

In fact Judaism is quite rare as far as religions go in not believing in the concept of going to hell just for not being jewish and in not seeking converts (in fact actively dissuading converts) to Judaism.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #177 on: March 21, 2012, 04:00:38 PM »
I would just chime in and say that using the term inferior may seem harsh. Negating that I'd like to say that each religion considers themselves superior to other religions. Jews don't look down on other nations, we have a live and let live mentality.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #178 on: March 21, 2012, 04:04:04 PM »
I would just chime in and say that using the term inferior may seem harsh. Negating that I'd like to say that each religion considers themselves superior to other religions. Jews don't look down on other nations, we have a live and let live mentality.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #179 on: March 21, 2012, 04:09:45 PM »
Does Christianity not teach that a jew is inferior to a christian and will go to hell if they don't convert? 
What else was the point of the spanish inquisition that my ancestors went through?

Does Islam not teach that non-muslims are all infidels and will all go to hell while they get 72 virgins in heaven for killing jews and christians?

This is the road I was talking about. I asked the questions not to attack your religion but to understand.

I was raised Roman Catholic and it is pretty simple for me. We are all Godís children. I was not taught that Jews were inferior. I think Passover demonstrates that.

I hope youíre not expecting me to defend Islam. I know we disagree on many things but this is not one of them.
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