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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* If you have to ask, It's most likely not ethical.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #200 on: March 26, 2012, 10:30:33 AM »
I called Guitar Center a week ago about mistakenly getting a second GC...spoke with CS at Corp HQ...they thanked me and said they'd be in touch...never heard back...am I clear to just spend both?

(How much was it for?) I think that if you called them you should give them more time or call them back and not jump the gun.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #201 on: March 26, 2012, 01:01:13 PM »
How about just giving one of them to charity?
why should he do that. if he shouldnt keep it then the charity shouldnt spend it either bec then they would be stealing. if he can keep it why should he give it to charity, it might be a nice thing to do but but i dont see why i have to give anything i "got" without earning to charity

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #202 on: March 26, 2012, 01:31:13 PM »
why should he do that. if he shouldnt keep it then the charity shouldnt spend it either bec then they would be stealing. if he can keep it why should he give it to charity, it might be a nice thing to do but but i dont see why i have to give anything i "got" without earning to charity
It would seem the OP is not sure if it is ethical to keep it or not. Giving it to charity would seem to kill two birds with one stone. You are relieved of the ethical issue and a worthy cause gets a benefit. Of course this opinion is based on my ethical views.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #203 on: March 26, 2012, 01:33:34 PM »
Seems more like Robin Hood ethics.
If you find extra money in your bank account can you just give it away to charity instead of trying to resolve it properly?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #204 on: March 26, 2012, 01:40:05 PM »
Seems more like Robin Hood ethics.
If you find extra money in your bank account can you just give it away to charity instead of trying to resolve it properly?
The OP tried to resolve it.

If I find extra money in my account I would try to resolve it. If I can't resolve it then yes I would have no problem giving it to a charity.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #205 on: March 26, 2012, 01:51:02 PM »
The OP tried to resolve it.

If I find extra money in my account I would try to resolve it. If I can't resolve it then yes I would have no problem giving it to a charity.
the easiest way to resolve it would be to just throw one out

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #206 on: March 26, 2012, 01:56:10 PM »
the easiest way to resolve it would be to just throw one out
That would be the easiest way to resolve it but not necessarily the correct thing to do.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #207 on: March 26, 2012, 01:59:16 PM »
That would be the easiest way to resolve it but not necessarily the correct thing to do.
true. but you will definitely not be stealing from the company. at worst you would be wasting money

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #208 on: March 26, 2012, 02:17:36 PM »
true. but you will definitely not be stealing from the company. at worst you would be wasting money
If anyone thinks this is stealing the only right thing would be to give it back.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #209 on: March 26, 2012, 05:58:45 PM »
Yup, you can not pass stolen goods on to a charity...
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #210 on: March 26, 2012, 06:05:50 PM »
I wish companies had a way you can donate money to them. I have had a few companies that I made money off of their mistakes that I would like to give back to them, but AFAIK there is no way.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #211 on: March 26, 2012, 07:16:16 PM »
I wish companies had a way you can donate money to them. I have had a few companies that I made money off of their mistakes that I would like to give back to them, but AFAIK there is no way.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #212 on: March 28, 2012, 05:56:12 AM »
You can buy gift cards and destroy them. You can probably call them and tell them that you want to make a payment for some old mistake. (You can send them amazon payments or paypal - just make sure that they get the cash)
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #213 on: March 30, 2012, 08:53:04 AM »
Setting up multiple accounts for websites like diapers.com that give a discount on first order.

Let's assume I deem this unethical. What about setting up an account for each member of the household? Is that ok?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #214 on: March 30, 2012, 10:07:45 AM »
Setting up multiple accounts for websites like diapers.com that give a discount on first order.

Let's assume I deem this unethical. What about setting up an account for each member of the household? Is that ok?
I would say as long as they are not minors it would be OK.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #215 on: March 30, 2012, 10:34:35 AM »
I would say as long as they are not minors it would be OK.
Why would minors it be able to set up accounts? I ordered things online before I was 18 albeit with parents permission.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #216 on: March 30, 2012, 10:41:42 AM »
Very interesting, thanks for the clarification. I'm surprised in the answer, I would think being honest is obligatory regardless of what type of person made the mistake.

Another approach I recently heard:

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #217 on: March 30, 2012, 10:50:06 AM »
Why would minors it be able to set up accounts? I ordered things online before I was 18 albeit with parents permission.
I just donít set up accounts in minorís names to get around requirements.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #218 on: March 30, 2012, 10:58:38 AM »
i think the fact that this is an open public forum which ANYONE can access puts a big responsibility on you DAN to either sensor or discontinue this thread altogether as your opening yourself up to chillul hashem which is very chumoor!

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #219 on: March 30, 2012, 11:04:46 AM »
i think the fact that this is an open public forum which ANYONE can access puts a big responsibility on you DAN to either sensor or discontinue this thread altogether as your opening yourself up to chillul hashem which is very chumoor!
So Dan is responsible for the ethical behavior of all the members?
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