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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* If you have to ask, It's most likely not ethical.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #680 on: January 14, 2013, 07:34:22 PM »
Personally, I'd find this unethical, as it surely goes against the spirit of the program.

Thank you! I was beginning to wonder if I had the asylum all to myself. :)

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #681 on: January 14, 2013, 07:35:09 PM »
Thank you! I was beginning to wonder if I had the asylum all to myself. :)

Oh, def not. I was the one for whom the asylum was created  8)
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #682 on: January 14, 2013, 07:36:17 PM »
Oh, def not. I was the one for whom the asylum was created  8)

LOL. I like you even more now. ;)

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #683 on: January 14, 2013, 07:38:59 PM »
Thank you! I was beginning to wonder if I had the asylum all to myself. :)
Oh, def not. I was the one for whom the asylum was created  8)
Not so quick. I have you both beat.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #684 on: January 14, 2013, 07:39:43 PM »
Not so quick. I have you both beat.

You're the one arguing with us...

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #685 on: January 14, 2013, 07:42:58 PM »
You're the one arguing with us...
That is why I belong in an asylum.  :P
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #686 on: January 14, 2013, 07:45:18 PM »
That is why I belong in an asylum.  :P

Well, get your own. Ours is full. All booked up by some jerk who wants to sell points availability to the highest bidder. ;D

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #687 on: January 14, 2013, 07:47:18 PM »
Well, get your own. Ours is full. All booked up by some jerk who wants to sell points availability to the highest bidder. ;D
Can you get me in?  :'(
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #688 on: January 14, 2013, 07:51:21 PM »
Can you get me in?  :'(

Yup. 50 bucks, and tell me what time to cancel one of my reservations. ;)

In all seriousness, though, back on topic... I'd love to hear what others think. Is it ethical?

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Re: Re: Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #689 on: January 14, 2013, 10:58:22 PM »
I don't think you can compare the case of the bike to my case of the Ami magazine or finding a envelope of cash addressed to you in your mailbox. I'm talking about when someone knowingly and willingly puts something on my doorstep addressed to me. Why should I not assume its a gift to me? When I got married and I got gifts in the mail should I have assumed it was sent to me by mistake?
not sure what you need to be explained, why the halacha is not that way or why by law you are wrong

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #690 on: January 16, 2013, 11:26:00 AM »
I won a dispute with card cash over a gc purchase (gotta love amex).

Do you think the gc is still active? If it is, is it ethical to use it?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #691 on: January 17, 2013, 10:00:11 PM »
Was parked in a illegal spot and got a deserved ticket but the ticket was full of mistakes, I am wondering if I should pay it because I did park illegally or should I fight it and most probably get it off on a technicality.

I will probably fight it but wondering what others think about such cases.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #692 on: January 17, 2013, 10:01:13 PM »
Was parked in a illegal spot and got a deserved ticket but the ticket was full of mistakes, I am wondering if I should pay it because I did park illegally or should I fight it and most probably get it off on a technicality.

I will probably fight it but wondering what others think about such cases.
I would certainly fight it. It's like speeding IMHO. Just cause you sped is not a reason not to try to talk your way out of it.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #693 on: January 17, 2013, 10:02:59 PM »
Was parked in a illegal spot and got a deserved ticket but the ticket was full of mistakes, I am wondering if I should pay it because I did park illegally or should I fight it and most probably get it off on a technicality.

I will probably fight it but wondering what others think about such cases.
Where are you?
Here in NY, the way I see it, I get enough undeserved tickets (which I can't get off) that anything I can get off I'll take, deserved or not.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #694 on: January 17, 2013, 10:10:18 PM »
Where are you?
Here in NY, the way I see it, I get enough undeserved tickets (which I can't get off) that anything I can get off I'll take, deserved or not.
In NY and it is my first ticket in years, forgot to move my car it is only $45, I agree that they are overzeolus and bloodsuckers but I did do wrong here.. Maybe the guy did me a favor and purposely wrote wrong info.

I would go to fight it in person since those have much more luck from what i hear, but brooklyn office is closed and the time spent trying to fight $45 I could just work and hofully make more then that.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #695 on: January 17, 2013, 11:59:41 PM »
In NY and it is my first ticket in years, forgot to move my car it is only $45, I agree that they are overzeolus and bloodsuckers but I did do wrong here.. Maybe the guy did me a favor and purposely wrote wrong info.

I would go to fight it in person since those have much more luck from what i hear, but brooklyn office is closed and the time spent trying to fight $45 I could just work and hofully make more then that.
I would have thought this would be in the ethical thread for another reason. Is it ethical not to fight the ticket! I guess 45 bucks aint much though.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #696 on: January 18, 2013, 04:47:16 PM »
Was parked in a illegal spot and got a deserved ticket but the ticket was full of mistakes, I am wondering if I should pay it because I did park illegally or should I fight it and most probably get it off on a technicality.

I will probably fight it but wondering what others think about such cases.
If you fight it on the grounds you did not park illegally I would say that is unethical. The ticket is required to be filled out correctly and I see no problem challenging that.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #697 on: January 19, 2013, 11:52:58 AM »
If you fight it on the grounds you did not park illegally I would say that is unethical. The ticket is required to be filled out correctly and I see no problem challenging that.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #698 on: January 19, 2013, 12:34:08 PM »
If you fight it on the grounds you did not park illegally I would say that is unethical. The ticket is required to be filled out correctly and I see no problem challenging that.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #699 on: January 19, 2013, 02:23:07 PM »
If you fight it on the grounds you did not park illegally I would say that is unethical. The ticket is required to be filled out correctly and I see no problem challenging that.
maskim :-).  Truth is @whyme i don't think its ethical to say it that way. Since they gave me tickets unlawfully last time, this time even  though there right, im not going to pay? What about all those times you sped and got away with it? You going to pay for that?
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