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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* If you have to ask, It's most likely not ethical.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #720 on: February 13, 2013, 07:14:08 PM »
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #721 on: February 26, 2013, 04:34:26 PM »
I purchased a pair of sunglasses from Groupon for $50. I bought the exact same pair from Nordstrom for $100.  Is it ethical to return the $50 pair to Nordstrom (brand new) for $100? Still have my Nordstrom receipt/glasses case..

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #722 on: February 26, 2013, 04:36:01 PM »
Maybe I'm missing something, but if they're exactly the same, why not just return the $100 pair to Nordstrom?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #723 on: February 26, 2013, 04:36:52 PM »
Maybe I'm missing something, but if they're exactly the same, why not just return the $100 pair to Nordstrom?
im assuming he already started using them

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #724 on: February 26, 2013, 08:39:24 PM »
im assuming he already started using them
Or they were stolen from my car

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #725 on: February 26, 2013, 11:12:02 PM »
im assuming he already started using them

You can return anything to Nordstrom even if it is used. I have returned items that broke after vein used for 3 years without any questions.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #726 on: February 26, 2013, 11:28:33 PM »
You can return anything to Nordstrom even if it is used. I have returned items that broke after vein used for 3 years without any questions.
I know you can return anything there. And BTW I don't think it is ethical to use/wear something for 3 years and just return to Nordstrom but that's a diff discussion.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #727 on: February 26, 2013, 11:31:46 PM »
I know you can return anything there. And BTW I don't think it is ethical to use/wear something for 3 years and just return to Nordstrom but that's a diff discussion.

why not? Isn't that their policy?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #728 on: February 27, 2013, 12:52:30 AM »
I purchased a pair of sunglasses from Groupon for $50. I bought the exact same pair from Nordstrom for $100.  Is it ethical to return the $50 pair to Nordstrom (brand new) for $100? Still have my Nordstrom receipt/glasses case..
This is a simple one, NO!
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #729 on: February 27, 2013, 01:08:50 AM »
why not? Isn't that their policy?

Nordstrom's is a clothing gemach?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #731 on: February 27, 2013, 09:21:29 AM »
This is a simple one, NO!
I don't think it's that simple. Were talking about the exact same item..

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #732 on: February 27, 2013, 10:41:35 AM »
I don't think it's that simple. Were talking about the exact same item..
No, you are talking about returning an item that you never bought there.  ;)
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #733 on: February 27, 2013, 12:18:36 PM »
No, you are talking about returning an item that you never bought there.  ;)
If you ask someone to put them under a cup and mix them, then is it ethical? I don't think I agree with your logic. It's one thing to do it with that intention, but once you own both I think it's fine.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #734 on: February 27, 2013, 03:53:02 PM »
If you ask someone to put them under a cup and mix them, then is it ethical? I don't think I agree with your logic. It's one thing to do it with that intention, but once you own both I think it's fine.
If it is the stores policy to take back items not purchased there then I would agree with you. The cup thing is to just justify it in your own mind.  :P
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #735 on: February 27, 2013, 04:12:40 PM »
If it is the stores policy to take back items not purchased there then I would agree with you. The cup thing is to just justify it in your own mind.  :P
Ethics is in the mind. No? I bet each store rep would tell you a different story of whether it is allowed or not... At the end of the day the cup example is to show there really is no difference, and if it comes down to gavra and cheftza the cheftza is in all reality the same in both cases so that is my logic... It is a tricky question though, I would have to think it over more if it involved me...
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #736 on: February 27, 2013, 04:18:12 PM »
Then this still is an easy one. Asked the store its policy.  ;)
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #737 on: February 27, 2013, 04:19:46 PM »
Then this still is an easy one. Asked the store its policy.  ;)
If and when the person asks, please include the cup example, and see what they say to that...
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #738 on: February 27, 2013, 04:45:00 PM »
If and when the person asks, please include the cup example, and see what they say to that...
How about I have two cuts of meat. One is kosher and one is not but they look the same. I put them both on a plate and mix them up. Would you eat one of them if you knew ahead of time what I did?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #739 on: February 27, 2013, 04:46:28 PM »
How about I have two cuts of meat. One is kosher and one is not but they look the same. I put them both on a plate and mix them up. Would you eat one of them if you knew ahead of time what I did?
Are we getting into the whole ethics/religion thing again? wake me up in 10 pages :P