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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* If you have to ask, It's most likely not ethical.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #740 on: February 27, 2013, 04:52:27 PM »
Are we getting into the whole ethics/religion thing again? wake me up in 10 pages :P

Isn't that the whole point of this thread?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #741 on: February 27, 2013, 04:56:22 PM »
How about I have two cuts of meat. One is kosher and one is not but they look the same. I put them both on a plate and mix them up. Would you eat one of them if you knew ahead of time what I did?
they look the same but are not the same. that would be comparable only if one pair of sunglasses was a knockoff. if he had never opened the one he bought from nordstrom would you have a problem with him returning the one he bought from groupon instead?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #742 on: February 27, 2013, 05:39:53 PM »
Are we getting into the whole ethics/religion thing again? wake me up in 10 pages :P
I will send you a PM.  :)
Isn't that the whole point of this thread?
No and we already went through this.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #743 on: February 27, 2013, 05:42:26 PM »
Isn't that the whole point of this thread?
No and we already went threw this.
Post any ethical discussion you may have in this thread.
Any ethics discussions made in other threads from now on will be deleted.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #744 on: February 27, 2013, 05:43:39 PM »
I was talking about the religion part.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #745 on: February 27, 2013, 05:49:06 PM »
I was talking about the religion part.

I didn't catch that. I would argue that ethics and religion are inseparable, though I haven't read through this thread, and it's probably been argued to death already.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #746 on: February 27, 2013, 05:51:45 PM »
...and it's probably been argued to death already.
...and then some. lol

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #747 on: February 27, 2013, 05:55:11 PM »
...and then some. lol
Keep it up and we will get ten more pages.  :P
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #748 on: February 27, 2013, 09:13:21 PM »
I didn't catch that. I would argue that ethics and religion are inseparable, though I haven't read through this thread, and it's probably been argued to death already.
You didn't read the wiki?

How about I have two cuts of meat. One is kosher and one is not but they look the same. I put them both on a plate and mix them up. Would you eat one of them if you knew ahead of time what I did?
like mcclovin said, those 2 pieces of meat are not at all the same cheftza according to Judaism.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #749 on: February 28, 2013, 12:39:55 AM »
like mcclovin said, those 2 pieces of meat are not at all the same cheftza according to Judaism.
...and I would argue that two items bought from different stores are not the same.  :P
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #750 on: February 28, 2013, 12:58:59 AM »
You didn't read the wiki?

Meh. You just added that like ten minutes ago.

Wait a couple minutes, while I quickly write up something that negates the need for all your previous comments. 
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #751 on: February 28, 2013, 02:37:46 AM »
Meh. You just added that like ten minutes ago.

Wait a couple minutes, while I quickly write up something that negates the need for all your previous comments. 
You don't know how to read a time stamp? It was written a day earlier.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #752 on: February 28, 2013, 03:18:42 AM »
You don't know how to read a time stamp? It was written a day earlier.

Do you know how to detect slight exaggeration? It was written a couple hours before our comments. Apparently you can't read time stamps either.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #753 on: February 28, 2013, 03:21:01 AM »
Do you know how to detect slight exaggeration? It was written a couple hours before our comments. Apparently you can't read time stamps either.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #754 on: April 02, 2013, 11:04:13 PM »
opening a new frequent flyer account to apply for another credit card airline bonus -

pro- the airlines let you have more than one open, and the cc company could track by social if they really wanted to stop this

con- sometimes the cc companies say  its a once in a lifetime bonus, so its really against their terms.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #755 on: April 02, 2013, 11:05:45 PM »
opening a new frequent flyer account to apply for another credit card airline bonus -

pro- the airlines let you have more than one open, and the cc company could track by social if they really wanted to stop this

con- sometimes the cc companies say  its a once in a lifetime bonus, so its really against their terms.

Any thoughts?


Once in a lifetime per account? Per person?

Honestly if you want to be 100% Yashar I'd say probably not.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #756 on: April 02, 2013, 11:52:56 PM »

Once in a lifetime per account? Per person?

Honestly if you want to be 100% Yashar I'd say probably not.

I thought chase says their 3rd party bonuses are one per person

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #757 on: April 03, 2013, 01:29:55 AM »
Any thoughts?
If it is against the T&C's then I would have to say it is not ethical to do.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #758 on: April 03, 2013, 12:24:38 PM »
I received the following email, whats the ethical thing to do?

Good Morning,

We are reaching out to you regarding your order with our company, Simple Cell Inc. It has come to our attention that due to a system error we have sent some orders twice, yours being one of them. We would ask that you just write return to sender on the duplicate package and leave it for your postman to return to us. If it is open you can just tape it shut.  We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your help.

 

Thank you,

Nick

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #759 on: April 03, 2013, 12:26:25 PM »
You really asking?