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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* If you have to ask, It's most likely not ethical.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #820 on: April 10, 2013, 12:09:46 AM »
First they ship me double and ask me to return one, (I did, reason see above... ;))
i hope it has nothing to do with me. all i said was yiush doesnt apply here. but i had a list of reasons you can keep it, i just didnt want to mention them here

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #821 on: April 10, 2013, 12:49:57 AM »
So we can run together :P
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #822 on: April 18, 2013, 04:01:11 PM »
A black man has a job interview with a racist business owner. The black man misrepresents himself by painting himself white. Do two wrongs ever make a right?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #823 on: April 18, 2013, 04:08:35 PM »
A black man has a job interview with a racist business owner. The black man misrepresents himself by painting himself white. Do two wrongs ever make a right?
I guess they could but not in this example.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #824 on: April 18, 2013, 08:46:16 PM »
What about if little Johnny gets mugged on his way home from school. Thug tells Johnny "give me all your money". Johnny says "I have none", while hoping that the thug doesn't find out that he's lying. Is it ethical for little johnny to lie? And if in this case its fine for johnny to lie, where would you draw the line?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #825 on: April 18, 2013, 09:02:30 PM »
What about if little Johnny gets mugged on his way home from school. Thug tells Johnny "give me all your money". Johnny says "I have none", while hoping that the thug doesn't find out that he's lying. Is it ethical for little johnny to lie? And if in this case its fine for johnny to lie, where would you draw the line?

I don't anyone would call this unethical.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #826 on: April 18, 2013, 09:05:48 PM »
I don't anyone would call this unethical.

So then "two wrongs make a right", in that case.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #827 on: April 18, 2013, 09:09:04 PM »
What about if little Johnny gets mugged on his way home from school. Thug tells Johnny "give me all your money". Johnny says "I have none", while hoping that the thug doesn't find out that he's lying. Is it ethical for little johnny to lie? And if in this case its fine for johnny to lie, where would you draw the line?
Is it ethical for little jonny to kick the guy in the ?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #828 on: April 18, 2013, 09:11:46 PM »
Is it ethical for little jonny to kick the guy in the ?

Only if I get to see a video of it on YouTube.  :P ::)
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #829 on: April 18, 2013, 09:15:50 PM »
For Johnny 's safety I would tell him to tell the mugger he DOES have money and give it all...

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #830 on: April 18, 2013, 09:17:19 PM »
For Johnny 's safety I would tell him to tell the mugger he DOES have money and give it all...
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #831 on: April 18, 2013, 09:18:11 PM »
For Johnny 's safety I would tell him to tell the mugger he DOES have money and give it all...

And throw it far away. Isn't that what they say?

Even though sometimes I think that might upset the dude and he'd wanna shoot me or something.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #832 on: April 19, 2013, 12:40:02 AM »
So then "two wrongs make a right", in that case.
Not at all. In this case Johnny was not wrong to lie.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #833 on: April 19, 2013, 03:50:47 AM »
Not at all. In this case Johnny was not wrong to lie.

Why not?

(Playing devil's advocate here.)

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #834 on: April 19, 2013, 11:46:33 AM »
What about if little Johnny gets mugged on his way home from school. Thug tells Johnny "give me all your money". Johnny says "I have none", while hoping that the thug doesn't find out that he's lying. Is it ethical for little johnny to lie? And if in this case its fine for johnny to lie, where would you draw the line?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #835 on: April 19, 2013, 12:17:44 PM »
you may (white)lie. you may not hit
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #836 on: April 19, 2013, 12:22:25 PM »
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your entitled to your opinion, mine is based on halacha

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #837 on: April 19, 2013, 12:27:03 PM »
your entitled to your opinion, mine is based on halacha
Source for halacha prohibiting hitting a mugger?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #838 on: April 19, 2013, 12:34:28 PM »
Why not?

(Playing devil's advocate here.)
IMHO just because you lie does not make it wrong.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #839 on: April 19, 2013, 12:39:02 PM »
Source for halacha prohibiting hitting a mugger?
one may not hit. you need a source for a exclusion.  if someone is hitting you or certain fam members it may be a exclusion. if your life is in danger is a exclusion