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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* If you have to ask, It's most likely not ethical.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1140 on: July 28, 2013, 09:40:27 AM »
So far the best answer I have heard is that they can stop it, and they don't.
This might be the best answer.  ;)
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1141 on: August 22, 2013, 04:38:15 PM »
What do you guys think?

I owe a neighbor some money and would like to pay him back by paying his bill in the local makolet. Obviously I would be paying by cc, is it unfair to the shopkeeper to have to pay the fees involved as he would otherwise be getting cash from my neighbor?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1142 on: August 22, 2013, 04:58:39 PM »
I see no problem with this.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1143 on: August 22, 2013, 05:01:31 PM »
I see no problem with this.
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No more than it being a problem with paying anyone with a CC making him absorb the CC fees.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1144 on: August 22, 2013, 05:04:56 PM »
What do you guys think?

I owe a neighbor some money and would like to pay him back by paying his bill in the local makolet. Obviously I would be paying by cc, is it unfair to the shopkeeper to have to pay the fees involved as he would otherwise be getting cash from my neighbor?

I think the bigger question is if your neighbor knows / agrees to let you pay his bill, or he wants you to give him cash.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1145 on: August 22, 2013, 05:06:10 PM »
I think the bigger question is if your neighbor knows / agrees to let you pay his bill, or he wants you to give him cash.
He agreed.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1146 on: August 22, 2013, 05:06:39 PM »
He agreed.

I see no problem then.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1147 on: October 24, 2013, 12:08:04 AM »
Do you guys think it's ethical to subscribe to banana republic emails for the 25% discount multiple times from the same account?

How about different accounts?
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1148 on: October 24, 2013, 08:04:49 AM »
Do you guys think it's ethical to subscribe to banana republic emails for the 25% discount multiple times from the same account?

How about different accounts?

Do you really think that Banana republic (or any major retailer) doesn't realize that people have multiple email address and can claim the coupon multiple times? If they did not want that they would find a different way to verify someone's identity.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1149 on: October 24, 2013, 10:52:51 AM »
oh so thats the answer to everything...... ::)

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1150 on: October 24, 2013, 11:20:32 AM »
The way I see it is that all these big stores want to get you to buy things at full price, so they overcharge and then give frequent "sales" where they bring the price down to normal.
So buying anything at full price=overpaying.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1151 on: October 24, 2013, 02:20:16 PM »
The way I see it is that all these big stores want to get you to buy things at full price, so they overcharge and then give frequent "sales" where they bring the price down to normal.
So buying anything at full price=overpaying.
+1. I live by the same philosophy. ;D

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1152 on: October 24, 2013, 02:25:38 PM »
+1. I live by the same philosophy. ;D
And therefore you can shoplift (I'm not saying the question above is shoplifting, but this line of reasoning has no relevance to the conversation)
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1153 on: October 24, 2013, 02:29:15 PM »
And therefore you can shoplift (I'm not saying the question above is shoplifting, but this line of reasoning has no relevance to the conversation)
Not sure how that excuses your comparison to shoplifting... :o

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1154 on: October 24, 2013, 02:36:10 PM »
I think it's very relevant. If 25% off is the price that Banana Republic intended to sell their merchandise at, and they only marked up the price to make you feel like you got a deal (as evidenced by how often they have these "1 time only" sales), than I see no problem in taking advantage of these "discounts".

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1155 on: October 24, 2013, 02:38:00 PM »
I think it's very relevant. If 25% off is the price that Banana Republic intended to sell their merchandise at, and they only marked up the price to make you feel like you got a deal (as evidenced by how often they have these "1 time only" sales), than I see no problem in taking advantage of these "discounts".
To me, it's just a question of whether they allow you to do so or not (if that's what you meant then fine). IT's not a question of whether you believe this is the price you should be paying.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1156 on: October 24, 2013, 02:38:28 PM »
And therefore you can shoplift (I'm not saying the question above is shoplifting, but this line of reasoning has no relevance to the conversation)

There's no logic to your argument.

Achas Veachas was saying:

The way I see it is that all these big stores want to get you to buy things at full price, so they overcharge and then give frequent "sales" where they bring the price down to normal.

Meaning that the retailer's strategy is to sell by offering steep discounts, and therefore makes it easy to come upon codes, and therefore it isn't unethical to use those codes.

So buying anything at full price=overpaying.

Was not an argument about the ethics, rather an observation based on the aforementioned retail strategy.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1157 on: October 24, 2013, 02:39:46 PM »
There's no logic to your argument.

Achas Veachas was saying:

Meaning that the retailer's strategy is to sell by offering steep discounts, and therefore makes it easy to come upon codes, and therefore it isn't unethical to use those codes.

Was not an argument about the ethics, rather an observation based on the aforementioned retail strategy.
To me, it's just a question of whether they allow you to do so or not (if that's what you meant then fine). IT's not a question of whether you believe this is the price you should be paying.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1158 on: October 24, 2013, 02:45:04 PM »
To me, it's just a question of whether they allow you to do so or not (if that's what you meant then fine). IT's not a question of whether you believe this is the price you should be paying.
That's what I was saying with more Hat'amah...
Even if their official T&C don't allow it, I'm sure the CEO of BR himself wouldn't mind...

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1159 on: October 24, 2013, 02:46:37 PM »
That's what I was saying with more Hat'amah...
Even if their official T&C don't allow it, I'm sure the CEO of BR himself wouldn't mind...
That's a dangerous argument, that's all I'm saying. You can say all the svaros you want, you just have to know whether they are true
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