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This thread is to discuss whether people feel that something is unethical, not to find out what the law*/T&C says.

Any Halachic questions should be posted here.

*According to CountValentine this includes religion, but unfortunately for him, the general consensus is that religion will always be entwined in this thread.

*Hint* If you have to ask, It's most likely not ethical.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1160 on: October 24, 2013, 02:53:15 PM »
That's a dangerous argument, that's all I'm saying. You can say all the svaros you want, you just have to know whether they are true

Sometimes they stack, and sometimes they don't. I doubt it is just carelessness on their part.
I remember when a coke was a nickel, and you could buy VRs in OD.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1161 on: October 24, 2013, 02:55:02 PM »
The 25 percent off is for the email address, doubt it says anywhere only one email address per person, therefore with every email you give them your entitled. As far as the +1to get a few to one email is a different story.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1162 on: October 24, 2013, 02:58:05 PM »
The 25 percent off is for the email address, doubt it says anywhere only one email address per person, therefore with every email you give them your entitled. As far as the +1to get a few to one email is a different story.

You get +n copies of the email...
I remember when a coke was a nickel, and you could buy VRs in OD.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1163 on: October 24, 2013, 03:12:02 PM »
The fact that they haven't stopped the stacking business means that they don't mind racking up more sales even at lower margins.
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1164 on: October 24, 2013, 03:56:09 PM »
If everyone feels so strongly about Banana's CEO wanting you to pay less with an email discount for an item that has a higher price tag, I'm sure you'd also be ok with someone calling them and asking directly, right?  ;D

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1165 on: October 24, 2013, 04:10:27 PM »
If everyone feels so strongly about Banana's CEO wanting you to pay less with an email discount for an item that has a higher price tag, I'm sure you'd also be ok with someone calling them and asking directly, right?  ;D


Try getting through to the CEO to place an order. But the dumb phone reps just won't do it without a code

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1166 on: October 24, 2013, 06:55:02 PM »
Try getting through to the CEO to place an order. But the dumb phone reps just won't do it without a code
And when you're done please post info in Corporate Contact Info thread  ;D ...

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1167 on: October 27, 2013, 12:23:58 PM »
And therefore you can shoplift (I'm not saying the question above is shoplifting, but this line of reasoning has no relevance to the conversation)
:o
Not sure how that excuses your comparison to shoplifting... :o
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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1168 on: October 27, 2013, 01:02:02 PM »
I one time heard someone ask rav Herschel schachter from yu about using someone else's wireless and he said it was גניבה.
Someone asked him but doesn't the fact that he didn't password protect it show that he's not makpid?  He said, maybe yes and maybe no, so don't steal it based on svara.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1169 on: October 27, 2013, 01:16:01 PM »
I one time heard someone ask rav Herschel schachter from yu about using someone else's wireless and he said it was גניבה.
Someone asked him but doesn't the fact that he didn't password protect it show that he's not makpid?  He said, maybe yes and maybe no, so don't steal it based on svara.

Can't compare an unknown individual with a multi-billion dollar organization.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1170 on: October 27, 2013, 01:19:14 PM »
Because.....

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1171 on: October 27, 2013, 07:30:23 PM »
Because.....

Because you have no idea what an individual may or may not be thinking but you can make a pretty educated guess that the company knows how to make money off of their coupon campaigns. I'm not saying its a forgone conclusion that banana intends for ppl to reuse these coupons (I personally believe they do) but there is no chance in the world that they did not discuss the possibility (eventuality really) that this is how it will be used.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1172 on: December 03, 2013, 01:50:13 PM »
Is it ethical to copy the mp3s of, for example, a Shmuel Kunda tape if I have the tape already?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1173 on: December 03, 2013, 01:52:09 PM »
Is it ethical to copy the mp3s of, for example, a Shmuel Kunda tape if I have the tape already?
If it's for yourself, don't see why not. If you want to give that copy to someone else, that's a different story, because they DONT have the tape already.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1174 on: December 03, 2013, 01:52:37 PM »
I believe it is, what's the difference if you copy it off your tape or off someone else once you paid for it?

ETA:
If it's for yourself, don't see why not. If you want to give that copy to someone else, that's a different story, because they DONT have the tape already.
I was assuming it was for himself, for someone else I would agree with beeweegee

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1175 on: December 03, 2013, 01:56:04 PM »
Is it ethical to copy the mp3s of, for example, a Shmuel Kunda tape if I have the tape already?

I hold it is fine, you purchased a copyright license for the material.

Same way you can copy your CD onto your computer even though that is "reproducing it" (I think the copyright laws now have a bfeirush heter for that, because it obviously needs to be ok.)

That's why I hold of always buying tapes which are cheaper and then copying a friends CD

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1176 on: December 03, 2013, 02:14:39 PM »
Thanks guys, that's what I figured as well, just wanted to hear other opinions.

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1177 on: December 03, 2013, 02:16:11 PM »
I hold it is fine, you purchased a copyright license for the material.

Same way you can copy your CD onto your computer even though that is "reproducing it" (I think the copyright laws now have a bfeirush heter for that, because it obviously needs to be ok.)

That's why I hold of always buying tapes which are cheaper and then copying a friends CD
how convert tape to mp3?

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1178 on: December 03, 2013, 02:26:53 PM »
how convert tape to mp3?
I have a converter. (I've had it for a year and a half and I never actually used it)

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Re: Is It Ethical?
« Reply #1179 on: December 05, 2013, 01:06:42 AM »
is it ethical to wear a shaitel with a fake skin in front that makes (or any other thing to that effect)a shaitel look for real