Author Topic: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini (Read 19308 times)

yesitsme · « **on:** February 27, 2022, 03:18:14 PM »

had Biden been PRESIDENT we wouldn't have been in this situation - JK

BTW
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaakov_Bleich#:~:text=but%20continues%20to%20publicly%20refer%20to%20himself

CountValentine · « **Reply #1 on:** February 27, 2022, 03:24:20 PM »

Quote from: yesitsme on February 27, 2022, 03:18:14 PM

BTW
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaakov_Bleich#:~:text=but%20continues%20to%20publicly%20refer%20to%20himself

What is his take on this situation? Has he condemned this murderous dictator?
How about Rabbi Berel Lazar?

yesitsme · « **Reply #2 on:** February 27, 2022, 03:30:56 PM »

I believe that not one religious leader that I know thinks that Putin is right
I also believe that Lazar is keeping his mouth shut in order not to break relations with Putin

CountValentine · « **Reply #3 on:** February 27, 2022, 03:34:53 PM »

At some point you need to speak up about what is right.

We have members saying shame on Biden because he didn't do this or that and dismissing everything he has done.

How about the countries and leaders that are silent? Why not shame on them or is this about "me"?

aygart · « **Reply #4 on:** February 27, 2022, 03:41:22 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on February 27, 2022, 03:34:53 PM

At some point you need to speak up about what is right.

We have members saying shame on Biden because he didn't do this or that and dismissing everything he has done.

How about the countries and leaders that are silent? Why not shame on them or is this about "me"?

The same people who view everything else in the world as being about Biden or Trump will do it here too. This is true for such supporters of either one.

CountValentine · « **Reply #5 on:** February 27, 2022, 03:42:41 PM »

Quote from: aygart on February 27, 2022, 03:41:22 PM

The same people who view everything else in the world as being about Biden or Trump will do it here too. This is true for such supporters of either one.

I am not going to call anyone out but that is not the case I see with some of the posts.

Mordyk · « **Reply #6 on:** February 27, 2022, 03:42:56 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on February 27, 2022, 03:34:53 PM

At some point you need to speak up about what is right.

We have members saying shame on Biden because he didn't do this or that and dismissing everything he has done.

How about the countries and leaders that are silent? Why not shame on them or is this about "me"?

When you live under a dictator like putin, I don't think he wants to go against Biden publicly

CountValentine · « **Reply #7 on:** February 27, 2022, 03:44:48 PM »

Quote from: Mordyk on February 27, 2022, 03:42:56 PM

When you live under a dictator like putin, I don't think he wants to go against Biden publicly

Not understanding or should Biden be Putin?

Mordyk · « **Reply #8 on:** February 27, 2022, 05:10:34 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on February 27, 2022, 03:44:48 PM

Not understanding or should Biden be Putin?

It was in regard to the chief rabbi of Russia being quiet

CountValentine · « **Reply #9 on:** February 27, 2022, 05:16:43 PM »

Quote from: Mordyk on February 27, 2022, 05:10:34 PM

It was in regard to the chief rabbi of Russia being quiet

Thats what I don't understand. If you live under Putin's control you wouldn't want to go against Putin, no? Going against Biden would actually be beneficial.

gozalim · « **Reply #10 on:** February 27, 2022, 07:04:11 PM »

when you live under putin, you say as little as possible about things where you can't say anything that will help anyone

CountValentine · « **Reply #11 on:** February 27, 2022, 07:12:43 PM »

Quote from: gozalim on February 27, 2022, 07:04:11 PM

when you live under putin, you say as little as possible about things where you can't say anything that will help anyone

The protesters in the street disagree with you.

EliJelly · « **Reply #12 on:** February 27, 2022, 07:46:31 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on February 27, 2022, 07:12:43 PM

The protesters in the street disagree with you.

Are there high profile Russians protesting? Govt officials?

CountValentine · « **Reply #13 on:** February 27, 2022, 07:49:53 PM »

Quote from: EliJelly on February 27, 2022, 07:46:31 PM

Are there high profile Russians protesting? Govt officials?

Don't know if they are protesting but are coming out against the invasion.
You can't remain silent forever.

aygart · « **Reply #14 on:** February 27, 2022, 07:53:03 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on February 27, 2022, 07:12:43 PM

The protesters in the street disagree with you.

If I were in his position I would be concerned about putting the entire Jewish population in danger

CountValentine · « **Reply #15 on:** February 27, 2022, 07:56:38 PM »

Quote from: aygart on February 27, 2022, 07:53:03 PM

If I were in his position I would be concerned about putting the entire Jewish population in danger

That is a real concern.
EU is sending military weapons. You don't think that puts their whole population in danger?

CountValentine · « **Reply #16 on:** February 27, 2022, 08:02:25 PM »

Will this push be it or a massive defeat for Russia?

Abey · « **Reply #17 on:** February 27, 2022, 08:09:21 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on February 27, 2022, 08:02:25 PM

Will this push be it or a massive defeat for Russia?

With new fighter jets on the ground and ammo on the way it seems it will be a minute by minute situation

CountValentine · « **Reply #18 on:** February 27, 2022, 08:13:07 PM »

Quote from: Abey on February 27, 2022, 08:09:21 PM

With new fighter jets on the ground and ammo on the way it seems it will be a minute by minute situation

3 miles of armored vehicles is a lot of minutes.

Are we thinking/hoping with our hearts and not looking at reality?

yesitsme · « **Reply #19 on:** February 27, 2022, 09:36:22 PM »

https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1498069224681578496