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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #160 on: March 20, 2022, 10:31:36 PM »
The focus on Israel makes no sense. How will what they do make even a small difference.
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #161 on: March 20, 2022, 10:51:41 PM »
The focus on Israel makes no sense. How will what they do make even a small difference.
Ukraine badly wants the iron dome even before the invasion, Israel blocked the sale
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #162 on: March 21, 2022, 12:04:48 AM »
The focus on Israel makes no sense.
Our strongest ally is not standing with us. Yes, that makes no sense.
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #163 on: March 21, 2022, 12:05:51 AM »
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #164 on: March 21, 2022, 12:26:22 AM »
Our strongest ally is not standing with us. Yes, that makes no sense.
deal: we give ukraine iron dome in exchange for us dropping the Iran deal?

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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #165 on: March 21, 2022, 12:27:59 AM »
deal: we give ukraine iron dome in exchange for us dropping the Iran deal?
You just don't get it.
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #166 on: March 21, 2022, 01:07:10 AM »
Our strongest ally is not standing with us. Yes, that makes no sense.
How do you figure ďnot standing with usĒ? Did they side against the US anywhere?
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #167 on: March 21, 2022, 01:23:53 AM »
You just don't get it.
wait, ukraine has agency to define what help it finds helpful?

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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #168 on: March 21, 2022, 02:18:03 AM »
Our strongest ally is not standing with us. Yes, that makes no sense.

This is BS. Israel has done pretty much everything the US did/asked. Most things that have been reported, like Israel not imposing sanctions or condemning Russia get debunked almost immidiately. The Iron dome thing has been debunked numerous times. Look at the speeches zelensky made to other countries, he asked for things he knew he wasn't getting, including asking America for a no fly zone. It's no surprise he asked Israel for things they can't give. It's his revisionist history about Ukrainians in the Holocaust that was absurd, and the complete ignorance by the likes of kizinger that are wrong.

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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #169 on: March 21, 2022, 07:37:05 AM »
I have not seen the speech to Israel but there seems to be many here that are tearing it apart. I did see most of the speeches to the UK, Canada and the US. In all three he pleaded to the emotions of everyone. To the US he talked about pearl harbor and 911. He called out our president. He thanked for the help and asked for more. I would not expect the speech to Israel to be any different but could be wrong. All the other speeches were considered great speeches. For some reason the speech to Israel was not accepted very well.

Now let's not try and rewrite history already when it is all too fresh in our mind. Israel has been late at every step of the way. Did not vote with the US at the UN. Some steps they are not even there yet. Have they sent military aid to Ukraine?

We all have to live with the choices being made. The big one for the US is the no-fly zone. How we will be judged by history? 
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #171 on: March 21, 2022, 07:48:06 AM »
Have they sent military aid to Ukraine?
Yes, that was my question.
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #172 on: March 21, 2022, 07:59:28 AM »
Yes, that was my question.
To ignore the repercussions it would have for Israel is ludicrous. Israel is the only western country operating in Russia controlled areas and needs their cooperation.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #174 on: March 21, 2022, 08:02:09 AM »
Now let's not try and rewrite history already when it is all too fresh in our mind.

This is precisely one of the massive issues with his speech calling on Israel to help Ukraine just as Ukraine helped the Jews 80 years ago. The survivors and their children have not forgotten the help that Ukrainians gave the Jews 80, 120, and 200 years ago.
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #175 on: March 21, 2022, 08:02:53 AM »
To ignore the repercussions it would have for Israel is ludicrous. Israel is the only western country operating in Russia controlled areas and needs their cooperation.
What about NATO countries bordering Russia. You don't think there can repercussions to them. You believe there is no repercussions for the US?

I getting the feeling the answer to my question is, no?
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #176 on: March 21, 2022, 08:05:16 AM »
To ignore the repercussions it would have for Israel is ludicrous. Israel is the only western country operating in Russia controlled areas and needs their cooperation.
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #177 on: March 21, 2022, 08:06:25 AM »
What about NATO countries bordering Russia. You don't think there can repercussions to them. You believe there is no repercussions for the US?

I getting the feeling the answer to my question is, no?
Not all repercussions are created equal.
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #178 on: March 21, 2022, 08:08:33 AM »
What about NATO countries bordering Russia. You don't think there can repercussions to them. You believe there is no repercussions for the US?

I getting the feeling the answer to my question is, no?

Israel isnít part of NATO and isnít offered their protection
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #179 on: March 21, 2022, 08:08:52 AM »
Not all repercussions are created equal.
I agree and those in most danger are the NATO countries that border Russia. They are supply weapons 24/7 to Ukraine.
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