Author Topic: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini (Read 19526 times)

This is BS. Israel has done pretty much everything the US did/asked. Most things that have been reported, like Israel not imposing sanctions or condemning Russia get debunked almost immidiately. The Iron dome thing has been debunked numerous times. Look at the speeches zelensky made to other countries, he asked for things he knew he wasn't getting, including asking America for a no fly zone. It's no surprise he asked Israel for things they can't give. It's his revisionist history about Ukrainians in the Holocaust that was absurd, and the complete ignorance by the likes of kizinger that are wrong.

CountValentine · « **Reply #169 on:** March 21, 2022, 07:37:05 AM »

I have not seen the speech to Israel but there seems to be many here that are tearing it apart. I did see most of the speeches to the UK, Canada and the US. In all three he pleaded to the emotions of everyone. To the US he talked about pearl harbor and 911. He called out our president. He thanked for the help and asked for more. I would not expect the speech to Israel to be any different but could be wrong. All the other speeches were considered great speeches. For some reason the speech to Israel was not accepted very well.

Now let's not try and rewrite history already when it is all too fresh in our mind. Israel has been late at every step of the way. Did not vote with the US at the UN. Some steps they are not even there yet. Have they sent military aid to Ukraine?

We all have to live with the choices being made. The big one for the US is the no-fly zone. How we will be judged by history?

yesitsme · « **Reply #170 on:** March 21, 2022, 07:40:59 AM »

Have they sent military aid to Ukraine?
They sent humanitarian aid and set up a field hospital

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-701227&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjXnLPMj9f2AhWVXc0KHWN-DLcQ0PADegQICxAP&usg=AOvVaw1wQBdi9pG39TSg0q69T5q2

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/at-us-request-israel-said-to-help-convince-uae-to-back-un-resolution-condemning-russia/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjFu9_zj9f2AhUzkIkEHXyVA_EQFnoECAUQAg&usg=AOvVaw2GeAdDpxsxPn_ir8YGmfXo

https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status/1505848093429972993

CountValentine · « **Reply #171 on:** March 21, 2022, 07:48:06 AM »

Quote from: yesitsme on March 21, 2022, 07:40:59 AM

Have they sent military aid to Ukraine?

Yes, that was my question.

avromie7 · « **Reply #172 on:** March 21, 2022, 07:59:28 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on March 21, 2022, 07:48:06 AM

Yes, that was my question.

To ignore the repercussions it would have for Israel is ludicrous. Israel is the only western country operating in Russia controlled areas and needs their cooperation.

yesitsme · « **Reply #173 on:** March 21, 2022, 08:00:38 AM »

https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1505757213905895427

yuneeq · « **Reply #174 on:** March 21, 2022, 08:02:09 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on March 21, 2022, 07:37:05 AM

Now let's not try and rewrite history already when it is all too fresh in our mind.

This is precisely one of the massive issues with his speech calling on Israel to help Ukraine just as Ukraine helped the Jews 80 years ago. The survivors and their children have not forgotten the help that Ukrainians gave the Jews 80, 120, and 200 years ago.

CountValentine · « **Reply #175 on:** March 21, 2022, 08:02:53 AM »

Quote from: avromie7 on March 21, 2022, 07:59:28 AM

To ignore the repercussions it would have for Israel is ludicrous. Israel is the only western country operating in Russia controlled areas and needs their cooperation.

What about NATO countries bordering Russia. You don't think there can repercussions to them. You believe there is no repercussions for the US?

I getting the feeling the answer to my question is, no?

yesitsme · « **Reply #176 on:** March 21, 2022, 08:05:16 AM »

Quote from: avromie7 on March 21, 2022, 07:59:28 AM

To ignore the repercussions it would have for Israel is ludicrous. Israel is the only western country operating in Russia controlled areas and needs their cooperation.

Remember the polish migs? Sure you got the green light, alright we will ship it to your base, nono no, we said you got the green light we don't want to hear another word about it

avromie7 · « **Reply #177 on:** March 21, 2022, 08:06:25 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on March 21, 2022, 08:02:53 AM

What about NATO countries bordering Russia. You don't think there can repercussions to them. You believe there is no repercussions for the US?

I getting the feeling the answer to my question is, no?

Not all repercussions are created equal.

yuneeq · « **Reply #178 on:** March 21, 2022, 08:08:33 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on March 21, 2022, 08:02:53 AM

What about NATO countries bordering Russia. You don't think there can repercussions to them. You believe there is no repercussions for the US?

I getting the feeling the answer to my question is, no?

Israel isn’t part of NATO and isn’t offered their protection

CountValentine · « **Reply #179 on:** March 21, 2022, 08:08:52 AM »

Quote from: avromie7 on March 21, 2022, 08:06:25 AM

Not all repercussions are created equal.

I agree and those in most danger are the NATO countries that border Russia. They are supply weapons 24/7 to Ukraine.