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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #180 on: March 21, 2022, 08:13:15 AM »
those in most danger are the NATO countries that border Russia.

Nope

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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #181 on: March 21, 2022, 08:18:15 AM »
I agree and those in most danger are the NATO countries that border Russia. They are supply weapons 24/7 to Ukraine.
Without the protection offered by their NATO membership you would be right. Fortunately for them, they have that membership. That you are ignoring that distinction is ludicrous.
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #182 on: March 21, 2022, 08:31:27 AM »
Without the protection offered by their NATO membership you would be right. Fortunately for them, they have that membership. That you are ignoring that distinction is ludicrous.
I am not ignoring anything. The threat Russia poses to NATO countries is real. With that threat hanging over their heads they still are providing massive military support to Ukraine.

There are serious threats to many countries. Sounds like you are invoking some kind of threat scale.
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #183 on: March 21, 2022, 08:35:02 AM »



There are serious threats to many countries. Sounds like you are invoking some kind of threat scale.
Of course I am. You aren't?

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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #184 on: March 21, 2022, 08:41:34 AM »
Of course I am. You aren't?
Nope. You get to a point where the threat is dangerous to many. Arguing one is 10 and another is 8 is pointless.

Would you want to be a NATO country being threatening nukes or a non-NATO country not being threatening with nukes?



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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #185 on: March 21, 2022, 08:49:41 AM »


Nope. You get to a point where the threat is dangerous to many. Arguing one is 10 and another is 8 is pointless.

I dont agree to these rules
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #186 on: March 21, 2022, 09:14:22 AM »
I dont agree to these rules
Didn't ask you to. Was pointing out it is pointless. Now you want to go 100 pages about who it poses a bigger threat to and prove my point?

The fact of the matter is Israel has been late or nonexistent on measures other western countries have taken. They should be called out for it.

The US was called out for things like oil sanctions and no fly zone. Many here voiced their opinion against the US on those any many other issues. So, what should Israel be called out for?
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #187 on: March 21, 2022, 10:07:53 AM »


  So, what should Israel be called out for?

For acting like bumbling fools trying to be all things at once.
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #188 on: March 21, 2022, 10:10:13 AM »
CNN: Calling Putin a war criminal is a bigger deal than you think.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/21/politics/putin-war-criminal-ukraine-russia-what-matters/index.html

This has been a trend starting when he was VP. Biden has been saying anything he can to look tough at the expense of cutting off conversation with Putin.
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #190 on: March 21, 2022, 05:16:26 PM »
America famously withheld weapons from Ukraine after talking a tough game. Every country has carved out exceptions to sanctions where it suited them. Oligarchs have been forced out of Israel and other countries have taken them in. Israel has played a more precarious balancing game than anyone and no other country has come under even close to the same scrutiny for it.

Meanwhile, articles about how the Ukrainians are analogous to Palestinians are looked at as "hard truths" by those decrying Israel's response to the war, while actual Palestinians walked out for Zelensky's speech and are firmly pro Russia. It would be bizarre and confusing if it wasn't completely expected.

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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #191 on: March 21, 2022, 05:19:48 PM »
America famously withheld weapons from Ukraine after talking a tough game. Every country has carved out exceptions to sanctions where it suited them. Oligarchs have been forced out of Israel and other countries have taken them in. Israel has played a more precarious balancing game than anyone and no other country has come under even close to the same scrutiny for it.

Meanwhile, articles about how the Ukrainians are analogous to Palestinians are looked at as "hard truths" by those decrying Israel's response to the war, while actual Palestinians walked out for Zelensky's speech and are firmly pro Russia. It would be bizarre and confusing if it wasn't completely expected.
The focus on Israel makes no sense. How will what they do make even a small difference.
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #192 on: March 21, 2022, 05:31:07 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/italian-lawmakers-boycott-zelensky-address-because-it-s-unfair-to-putin/ar-AAVkqFE?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
"They didn’t invite Putin to give his side of the was story."

You can't make this stuff up.  >:(
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #194 on: March 24, 2022, 04:56:31 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #195 on: March 24, 2022, 06:57:30 PM »

Refugees shouldn't need to fit a social agenda to be allowed into the US

https://www.wsj.com/articles/people-we-should-invite-to-america-11648148744?st=xsfp4iarvjrh5tf&reflink=share_mobilewebshare
Whats wrong with  “committed to protecting the most vulnerable among the refugee populations that have already fled,”?
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #196 on: March 24, 2022, 10:25:59 PM »
Whats wrong with  “committed to protecting the most vulnerable among the refugee populations that have already fled,”?
Nothing with that half of the sentence
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #197 on: March 24, 2022, 11:13:47 PM »
Nothing with that half of the sentence
Was the other half of the sentence a quote or commentary?
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #198 on: March 24, 2022, 11:44:44 PM »
Was the other half of the sentence a quote or commentary?
The same thing is all over the place including cnn
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Re: Russia VS Ukraine || slava ukraini
« Reply #199 on: March 24, 2022, 11:50:53 PM »
The same thing is all over the place including cnn
That is why I disregard it. If it is not a direct quote it is worthless when you are going to add your (the author) commentary and pretend it is part of the quote.
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