Verified Ukraine Tzedaka Campaigns

[JlmBoi]

You are showing something about the US agudah from the Israeli yted?

I think they share general mindset about specific topics. Just my perception. I would welcome insight otherwise specifically on this topic.

[JMHO]

Please, list all non chabad people active in Ukraine now.

Stop pulling Jews apart. There are Jews in need. Chabad does a ton and there are other people doing a ton too. We are all Jews and support everyone.

Also,

money is needed in neighboring countries too (Poland, Moldova, Belarus, Hungary, etc).

[Euclid]

Please, list all non chabad people active in Ukraine now. Only one I have heard is Hilel Cohen. Maybe there is others.
I'm sure there are many that are helping refugees who are already out. It's a slippery slope from pikuach nefesh to buying fefugee kids stuffed today and big purim packages.

Assuming if that wasnt clear from my tone. Do you think differently? If yes I'm interested why.
Yated (Israel) ran a huge piece a few weeks ago about Ukrainian jewry. They didn't mention a word about Chabad. It would definitely be a first of there was any collaboration.

Refael Kruskal

[JlmBoi]

These organizations need money TODAY.
Don't think so much, just give NOW and SAVE LIVES.
This is a unique Tzedakah opportunity to help Acheinu Bnei Yosroel. GIVE. GIVE. GIVE.

Is it going to save lives or to support needy people. One is very unique and of extreme importance. One is also very importsnt but not unique.

[Yehuda57]

How about if you think Chabad is the best place to give to, give there. If you think Agudah, give there, etc. No need to create division and machlokes based on hearsay at best. If Agudah comes out with a statement that Chabad ain't worth anything, or vice versa, then come back and post.

[JMHO]

Is it going to save lives or to support needy people. One is very unique and of extreme importance. One is also very importsnt but not unique.

Both.
Give to both.

[JMHO]

How about if you think Chabad is the best place to give to, give there. If you think Agudah, give there, etc. No need to create division and machlokes based on hearsay at best. If Agudah comes out with a statement that Chabad ain't worth anything, or vice versa, then come back and post.

+1

[JlmBoi]

Stop pulling Jews apart. There are Jews in need.

Sorry that's why you are hearing. When they are asking average families to give hundreds of dollars I think it's normal to find out if it's going to the right places and if it's pikuach nefesh or helping needy. Do you think it's out of order to find out if they are giving chabad who are at very least a very significant part of the effort to save people?

[JlmBoi]

To all the worried posters. I would never dissuade anyone from giving to anything positive. If you cant hear my questions as reasonable criticism of a campaign not being clear about what it is and where its going while not saying that's its not a worthy cause please ignore it.

[avromie7]

For all the bashing of the Agudah campaign, I reached out and know that the money is going to good causes + @yuneeq verified above + their contact information is clearly listed and anyone can reach out with any questions.

While I am personally involved in another organization, the Agudah has been able to raise 11M+ and continues to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars a day including arranging millions of matching funds. Which other organization is able to raise these numbers?!

These organizations need money TODAY.

BH everyone is in a position to give SOMETHING.

Don't think so much, just give NOW and SAVE LIVES.

This is a unique Tzedakah opportunity to help Acheinu Bnei Yosroel. GIVE. GIVE. GIVE.

I worked for one of the Agudah matchers for over 5 years. I can say with 100% confidence that if he's putting money and time into it he verified that the money is going to an important cause and is being spent in the best way possible.

[avromie7]

Sorry that's why you are hearing. When they are asking average families to give hundreds of dollars I think it's normal to find out if it's going to the right places and if it's pikuach nefesh or helping needy. Do you think it's out of order to find out if they are giving chabad who are at very least a very significant part of the effort to save people?

Part of the pikuach nefesh is making sure that the people who came out with nothing have food, medicine, and shelter.

[JlmBoi]

Part of the pikuach nefesh is making sure that the people who came out with nothing have food, medicine, and shelter.

I dont think it had the same halachik status regarding peoples chiyuv to give and how much. It's important because they are calling on everyone to give hundreds.

[yuneeq]

I dont think it had the same halachik status regarding peoples chiyuv to give and how much. It's important because they are calling on everyone to give hundreds.

Maybe you should learn the facts before spitting out many assumptions publicly. Keeping people alive is not the most important cause? How about this - some people don’t want to leave Ukraine because of how bad they hear it is on the other side. This is a fact.

[JlmBoi]

Maybe you should learn the facts before spitting out many assumptions publicly. Keeping people alive is not the most important cause? How about this - some people don’t want to leave Ukraine because of how bad they hear it is on the other side. This is a fact.

Im asking questions, how is that an assumption?

[CountValentine]

Everyone is just looking to give. Look at their question/concerns/comments in that light.
I am sure we can all find and organization we are comfortable giving to.

[JMHO]

I dont think it had the same halachik status regarding peoples chiyuv to give and how much. It's important because they are calling on everyone to give hundreds.

So you are arguing Halachik status with the Rabbonim calling on everyone to give hundreds?

I'm sure there are great organizations that you can feel comfortable supporting. Please give generously!

[yuneeq]

Im asking questions, how is that an assumption?

Online you come out pretty cynical, apologize if that’s not true. Would like to make a point- most people are not familiar with the organizations on the ground, and they give significantly more money if someone they recognize is verifying and disbursing the funds. There’s also tremendous value in an org like Agudah where they can view the situation holistically-

-Sustain people still in Ukraine. People are starving. Melting snow to drink. No medicine.
-Rescue people from Ukraine.
-Sustain those that escaped Ukraine and have nothing. In Moldova. Romania. Poland. Etc.

Each one of these needs is of utmost importance, and it needs to be done for people all over Ukraine - not just by a single org involved in one area.

[JlmBoi]

Online you come out pretty cynical, apologize if that’s not true. Would like to make a point- most people are not familiar with the organizations on the ground, and they give significantly more money if someone they recognize is verifying and disbursing the funds. There’s also tremendous value in an org like Agudah where they can view the situation holistically-

-Sustain people still in Ukraine. People are starving. Melting snow to drink. No medicine.
-Rescue people from Ukraine.
-Sustain those that escaped Ukraine and have nothing. In Moldova. Romania. Poland. Etc.

Each one of these needs is of utmost importance, and it needs to be done for people all over Ukraine - not just by a single org involved in one area.

I try not to be cynical... In this case I'm cynical of an organization that has no shaychus to the situation on the ground making a huge campaign and not being clear about where it's going.
What I am not cynical about is the huge need for great monetary help for all organizations doing the essential work that needs to be done to save lives and all that comes with that.

[ckmk47]

Each one of these needs is of utmost importance, and it needs to be done for people all over Ukraine - not just by a single org involved in one area.

Chabad is throughout Ukraine. https://www.chabad.org/jewish-centers/search?q=ukraine

[yuneeq]

I try not to be cynical... In this case I'm cynical of an organization that has no shaychus to the situation on the ground making a huge campaign and not being clear about where it's going.
What I am not cynical about is the huge need for great monetary help for all organizations doing the essential work that needs to be done to save lives and all that comes with that.

So don’t give them. You heard a couple people vouch for them and so be it. I was on zoom call with a couple of the rabbis in Ukraine a couple weeks ago. (One was Chabad. One wasn’t. No one thought to ask about that though.) They were asked exactly where the money will be going to. They also had a hard time answering because every day the situation is changing and getting bigger. An opportunity opens up to rescue 100 Jews but they need $50k right away. They were verified and thankfully they’ve been doing tremendous work, to put it lightly.