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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #120 on: April 05, 2022, 10:29:30 PM »
This isn't Miami or Boca. Other than a strip of shopping on a major road that has big box stores there is a whole lot of nothing, swamp, farms, mom & pop stores and restaurants that specialize in bbq and gator and catfish and fried frogs legs.

Beyond the religious isolation, I'm not sure the community planners are fully aware of the economic ramifications. Other than remote work and the community's own infrastructure, income will not be easy to find.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #121 on: April 05, 2022, 10:32:57 PM »
Beyond the religious isolation, I'm not sure the community planners are fully aware of the economic ramifications. Other than remote work and the community's own infrastructure, income will not be easy to find.
An hour from west palm and 2 hours from Miami commuting to Manhattan can be worse

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« Reply #122 on: April 05, 2022, 10:38:27 PM »
An hour from west palm and 2 hours from Miami commuting to Manhattan can be worse

It's not 2 hours from Miami on any day of the week.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #123 on: April 05, 2022, 10:39:52 PM »
It's not 2 hours from Miami on any day of the week.

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« Reply #124 on: April 05, 2022, 10:42:12 PM »

Google hasn't given me accurate driving times in South FL in over 5 years.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #125 on: April 05, 2022, 10:45:25 PM »
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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #126 on: April 05, 2022, 10:46:22 PM »
An hour from west palm and 2 hours from Miami commuting to Manhattan can be worse
Manhattan was never close to two hours in my experience.
The issue is any property this size 20 minutes to any large city would cost at least triple the price, if you can even find such a large property.

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« Reply #127 on: April 05, 2022, 10:47:57 PM »
An hour from west palm and 2 hours from Miami commuting to Manhattan can be worse
It's not 2 hours from Miami on any day of the week.

I'm not stam being snarky. I know people who commute daily from communities in and around Boca, Ft. Lauderdale, and Hollywood to Miami daily. Driving down here isn't what it used to be.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #128 on: April 05, 2022, 10:48:45 PM »
Either way I doubt any1 moving there now would work in Miami and Ithere are plenty of company’s all over Florida Miami is just a spek

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« Reply #129 on: April 05, 2022, 10:52:54 PM »
Either way I doubt any1 moving there now would work in Miami and Ithere are plenary of company’s all over Florida Miami is just a spek

With all due respect, I think you're grossly underestimating the challenge of finding work when you live in the boondocks.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #130 on: April 05, 2022, 10:54:46 PM »
With all due respect, I think you're grossly underestimating the challenge of finding work when you live in the boondocks.
don’t think chassidim have that problem they can just have a few rich chassidim open a Branch and make jobs

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« Reply #131 on: April 05, 2022, 10:57:29 PM »
don’t think chassidim have that problem they can just have a few rich chassidim open a Branch and make jobs

And that's the kind of thinking that leads me to
Beyond the religious isolation, I'm not sure the community planners are fully aware of the economic ramifications. Other than remote work and the community's own infrastructure, income will not be easy to find.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #132 on: April 05, 2022, 10:58:55 PM »
And that's the kind of thinking that leads me to
part of initiation is what work you do if have a job or if you need one I don’t think they are going to take people initially if they won’t have a job

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« Reply #133 on: April 05, 2022, 11:18:03 PM »
part of initiation is what work you do if have a job or if you need one I don’t think they are going to take people initially if they won’t have a job

I'll just reiterate the sentiment I expressed in the Tampa thread when that was starting.... I truly wish them the best. I think new communities in FL are good for frum people everywhere, and especially to the existing frum communities in FL. I just don't think any of these people know what they're doing. Until you've lived outside the bubble, you cannot really understand what it takes to build and sustain a community in the middle of nowhere.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #134 on: April 05, 2022, 11:39:06 PM »
part of initiation is what work you do if have a job or if you need one I don’t think they are going to take people initially if they won’t have a job

As I already said upthread: Barriers like this (applicant needs to already have a job and can relocate there and keep it) or making sure the applicant is “their type of frum” or other such constraints will make it even more far fetched that they’ll ever get 150 families to move.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #135 on: April 05, 2022, 11:41:22 PM »
The issue is any property this size 20 minutes to any large city would cost at least triple the price, if you can even find such a large property.

Which is why the hope of finding land of this size (plus room to grow) at this price 20 minutes drive from a major city is a pipe dream. Location. location. location.
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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #136 on: April 06, 2022, 12:15:34 AM »
Which is why the hope of finding land of this size (plus room to grow) at this price 20 minutes drive from a major city is a pipe dream. Location. location. location.
You don't need 20 minutes, 40 minutes commute is also a normal option but not what is mentioned above.
Was Tampa a better location? Closer to a city hub?

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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #137 on: April 06, 2022, 12:35:55 AM »
You don't need 20 minutes, 40 minutes commute is also a normal option but not what is mentioned above.
Was Tampa a better location? Closer to a city hub?

Tampa certainly sounds like less boondocks than this place
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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #138 on: April 06, 2022, 01:59:16 AM »
Just a little detail to all those googling driving directions: the location is Buckhead Ridge, not the town of Okeechobee or "Okeechobee County".
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Re: New Chassidish Community Planned in Florida (Lakefront Estates)
« Reply #139 on: April 07, 2022, 03:17:53 AM »
You don't need 20 minutes, 40 minutes commute is also a normal option but not what is mentioned above.
Was Tampa a better location? Closer to a city hub?
It is not Tampa.
But yes.
It is 40 Minutes from Tampa & 40 Minutes from Sarasota/Bradenton.