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Coding/programming
« on: March 24, 2022, 03:45:34 PM »
I know there are a number of us who code, at least for fun.  Most of the coding I do now is stuff that interests me.  A couple years back, I wrote an app to compute the molad, today I installed Ubuntu and did a command line base-to-base conversion, bases 2-36 (strictly with vi).  I know there's some reinventing the wheel here, but the point is to think through a rather simple problem, and code it.

A year or so ago there was an interesting problem in the Math thread that I coded on CppDroid (way too hard to use), but I was hoping we could share ideas on a dedicated thread.

Any programming questions should be directed to stackoverflow or the like, not discussed here.
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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2022, 03:55:05 PM »
I know there are a number of us who code, at least for fun.  Most of the coding I do now is stuff that interests me.  A couple years back, I wrote an app to compute the molad, today I installed Ubuntu and did a command line base-to-base conversion, bases 2-36 (strictly with vi).  ...

That says something about you. (I am not a coder or programmer in any way shape or form, but I have been involved with some programming in the past).
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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2022, 03:55:17 PM »
I'm not a programmer! ;D
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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2022, 04:12:12 PM »
That says something about you.
Would you expect someone that uses vi to drive a stick shift?
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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2022, 04:20:38 PM »
Would you expect someone that uses vi to drive a stick shift?

Not if they live in a high traffic area and need to do a lot of driving. I haven't used vi, but I can appreciate it (though I was introduced to it at a stage where I got used to other things, and I am notorious for typos and syntax errors, so I prefer tools that will help me with that. I still prefer keyboard control to anything one can do with a mouse). I have driven stick shift in Israeli highway traffic, that is pure torture, the little bit of extra control doesn't compensate for the constant need to use the clutch.
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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2022, 04:22:23 PM »
Here's what I was thinking of:

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=124200.msg2431035#msg2431035

I think had I given it a bit more thought before watching the video, I would've gotten more of the fun part.  The mod in the second solution was just the first part...
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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2022, 06:05:56 PM »

That says something about you. (I am not a coder or programmer in any way shape or form, but I have been involved with some programming in the past).
 
Good point.  Maybe we should discuss this over here

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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2022, 10:01:49 PM »
People still use the word programming?

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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2022, 10:39:06 PM »
People still use the word programming?
Probably legacy. I introduced my son (between grades 2 and 3) to Scratch a few days ago, and Google shows the MIT website says, "Scratch is a free programming language..." but the visible part of the website just says 'coding', so it must've been updated at some point. I'm old school and have been using the word 'programming' with him, but should probably also use the updated term.

While on the topic... Scratch is amazing.  He's only been using it a few days, and has learned so many concepts that kids normally aren't introduced to for a few years: angles, coordinates, variables, etc.

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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2022, 10:49:13 PM »
I can accept “programming language”, but “programming” as a verb? Or worse yet “programmer”? Maybe on the resume of someone who’s specialty is COBOL 🤓

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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2022, 11:37:06 PM »
Programming sounds fine to me, does that make me old? Is coding the preferred modern terminology? Doesn’t sound right either. Probably something like web developer or software engineer.
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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2022, 11:39:21 PM »
Programming sounds fine to me, does that make me old? Is coding the preferred modern terminology? Doesn’t sound right either. Probably something like web developer or software engineer.

Any of the others seems to be more with the times. And I’m not sure software developer/engineer as it’s used colloquially precludes web/app developers.

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Coding/programming
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2022, 12:02:01 AM »
I use "programming/programmer" when talking to Muggles in the frum community. (Don't get me started about the frum community and software development...)

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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2022, 12:03:19 AM »
(Don't get me started about the frum community and software development...)

Certainly a rabbi hole you don’t want to go down :P

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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2022, 05:57:32 AM »
there are essentially 10 types of people who haunt hang around dan's deals. those who know how to code and those who don't.

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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2022, 08:16:36 AM »
A nephew of mine took a coding course.  When I asked what it was, he said he was learning things like app creation.  Now I realize he was taking a programing course and learning program writing.
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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2022, 10:44:30 AM »
programming or programing?
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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2022, 10:50:17 AM »
programming or programing?
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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2022, 10:51:39 AM »
programming or programing?

As long as it isn't pogroming.
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Re: Coding/programming
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2022, 11:00:33 AM »
As long as it isn't pogroming.
I've been part of some brutal code reviews